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Subject [Incubator Wiki] Update of "IncubatorIssues2013" by antelder
Date Sun, 02 Jun 2013 08:23:22 GMT
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  (''rgardler'') To me 02.2 and 02.3 are almost the same thing. A mentor certainly counts
as a "potential PMC member" (I don't want to assume mentors will be PMC members upon graduation).
For me there is no need for the special label in this case. This would bring the IPMC role
back to what it was originally set out to be - to ensure incoming products could find their
way within the Apache Way (see original resolution at https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Incubator.html
  
- (''ant'') I agree 02.2 and 02.3 are almost the same thing. A problem is what to do with
small slow poddlings, and that topic comes up regularly, sometimes mentors are added and the
poddling graduates, othertimes small slow poddlings just get stuck here. The Incubator isn't
really adding any value we're just waiting for them to do a bit more and then they'd graduate.
We need some way to make it easier to let them go which is one thing the new label might help
do. [[OlderPoddlingsWithARelease|These]] are the current poddlings over a year old that have
done a release and met most other requirements with some analysis of why they are still here.
I've suggested eight of them could graduate, though I don't expect everyone will agree with
that!
+ (''ant'') I agree 02.2 and 02.3 are almost the same thing. A problem is what to do with
small slow poddlings, and that topic comes up regularly, sometimes mentors are added and the
poddling graduates, othertimes small slow poddlings just get stuck here. The Incubator isn't
really adding any value we're just waiting for them to do a bit more and then they'd graduate.
We need some way to make it easier to let them go which is one thing the new label might help
do. [[OlderPodlingsWithARelease|These]] are the current poddlings over a year old that have
done a release and met most other requirements with some analysis of why they are still here.
I've suggested eight of them could graduate, though I don't expect everyone will agree with
that!
  
  '''02.4''' Podlings have one year to graduate.  If they do not then the podling is automatically
put in the attic.  The podling can re-apply to be accepted provided it proven that the deficiencies
that prevented graduation are well on their way to being remedied and has the requisite two
active mentors. Hard and fast rules seem cruel but are much more fair and efficient; witness
the huge email storms every time we treat a podling differently. (''Cabrera'')
  

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