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Subject [Incubator Wiki] Update of "February2013" by BensonMargulies
Date Thu, 14 Feb 2013 01:27:13 GMT
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The "February2013" page has been changed by BensonMargulies:

  Incubator PMC report for Feb 2013
- < narrative >
+ The main concern of the incubator continues to be the quality and reliability of supervision.
+ We know that some projects suffer from Mentor Inattention. Individual PMC members have been
+ volunteering to address some of these holes. Shepherds are an additional mechanism for taking
+ note of problems, but not a solution to those problems. The supply of mentoring seems, still,
+ to exceed demand. Changes to the report format make it somewhat easier to notice, for example,
+ mentors who don't sign off on reports or reports that are altogether missing.
+ As a change from this theme, this reporting period includes a less conventional issue. 
+ A podling (HCatalog) proposes to 'graduate' by absorption into the Hive PMC. However, the
+ under which Hive proposes to absorb HCatalog strikes some PMC members as returning to the

+ deprecated practices of 'umbrellas' and 'subprojects', which led to strong -1 votes on
+ the graduation thread. On the other hand, it may be entirely between the board and Hive
+ sort out whether Hive is creating a structure that is acceptable to the board or not, and
+ not a matter for the IPMC to rule on.
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