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Subject [Incubator Wiki] Update of "June2012" by ArvindPrabhakar
Date Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:11:05 GMT
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The "June2012" page has been changed by ArvindPrabhakar:

  Progress on graduation:
   * Community vote: PASSED. Vote (1), Result (2)
-  * Incubator PMC Vote: IN PROGRESS. Vote (3)
+  * Incubator PMC Vote: PASSED. Vote (3), Result (4)
+  * During the community vote a concern was raised regarding whether the podling had sufficient
diversity (5). 
+   * The Flume community worked with the mentors to reach consensus for resolving this issue.
+   * The diversity requirement was clarified and helped resolve this concern (6)
-  * During the community vote a concern was raised regarding whether the podling had sufficient
diversity (4). Discussion thread (5). Key points discussed in this thread are as follows:
-   * There are at least 4 different organizations represented in the current set of committers
(6). However the concern was later qualified as diversity of PPMC and not committers.
-   * There are at least four different organizations represented in the PPMC (7). Incidentally,
two of the PPMC members remain interested but have taken a back seat given that they are either
busy due to family circumstances (8) or are satisfied by how the current PPMC is operating
and do not feel the need to intervene given their other commitments (9). As a result the only
active organizations are Cloudera and Intuit, where the representation from Intuit is that
of a mentor who is also a committer.
-   * The discussion shifted back to diversity of committers and it was noted that a vast
majority of the commits were coming from a single committer and virtually all commits were
from Cloudera employees (10).
-   * It was clarified that Flume follows RTC policy where the committers do not commit their
own patches and instead the reviewer does it for them. As a result the numbers pointed out
in (10) were not representative of actual contributions. Actual contributions can be found
from assigned Jira tickets which show that on an average a Cloudera committer has made 26
contributions while a non-Cloudera committer has made 5 (11). This is likely because Cloudera
committers usually work during office hours whereas other committers may not.
-   * It was pointed out that regardless of the average contributions Cloudera has contributed
93% of the time (12).
-   * It was noted such scenario exists or has existed in other projects which are successful
(13), and that the PPMC must work hard to ensure that it is a level playing field for all
- Given the above discussion and the diversity concern regarding PPMC raised by a mentor,
the Flume PPMC discussed in private about the ways to address this. The Flume PPMC concluded
that adopting the process of promoting all current committers to PMC status on graduation
will resolve the diversity concern and allow the graduation process to proceed. The discussion
of this subject was done on the Flume private list (14), with conclusion noted in (15). 
- (4)
+ (4)
- (6)
+ (6)
- (7)
- (8)
- (9)
- (10)
- (11)
- (12)
- (13)
- (14) Message ID: <>
- (15) Message ID: <>
  Signed off by mentor:
  Shepherd: Dave Fisher

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