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Subject svn commit: r690794 - in /incubator/public/trunk: site-author/guides/ppmc.xml site-publish/guides/ppmc.html
Date Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:06:59 GMT
Author: clr
Date: Sun Aug 31 15:06:59 2008
New Revision: 690794

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=690794&view=rev
Log:
Clarify voting a new committer in a podling.

Modified:
    incubator/public/trunk/site-author/guides/ppmc.xml
    incubator/public/trunk/site-publish/guides/ppmc.html

Modified: incubator/public/trunk/site-author/guides/ppmc.xml
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/guides/ppmc.xml?rev=690794&r1=690793&r2=690794&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- incubator/public/trunk/site-author/guides/ppmc.xml (original)
+++ incubator/public/trunk/site-author/guides/ppmc.xml Sun Aug 31 15:06:59 2008
@@ -137,7 +137,7 @@
       <p>If a person has made significant contributions of
       high-quality, is interested in continuing to
       contribute, and works well with
-      others under the Apache guidelines, the project might vote to
+      others under the Apache guidelines, the project might want to
       grant that person <a
       href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#CommitAccess">
       commit access</a>. See the ASF <em>How it Works</em> document,
@@ -146,6 +146,29 @@
       meritocracy</a> and <a
       href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles">
       roles</a>.</p>
+      <p>Voting a new committer is one of the most important functions 
+      of any PMC, and the Incubator is no different. Only votes of 
+      Incubator PMC members are binding (counted) when considering 
+      a new committer.  But the members of the PPMC, with direct oversight
+      over the podling, are best able to judge the qualifications and 
+      suitability of a proposed new committer. Therefore, the process 
+      for voting a new committer into an Incubator podling is a bit more 
+      complex than voting a new committer into a Top Level Project.</p>
+
+      <p>The role of the PPMC in this process is recommendation to the 
+      Incubator PMC that one of the contributors to the podling is worthy 
+      of committership. The recommendation should reflect consensus of the 
+      PPMC. When it comes to voting, an affirmative vote of at least 
+      three Incubator PMC members is needed. Since the PPMC often contains 
+      only three Incubator PMC members (the podling's Mentors), the 
+      challenge for a PPMC to vote a new committer is to obtain three or 
+      more Incubator PMC members' votes. If all of the Mentors vote in 
+      favor of the new committer, the required number of votes is obtained, 
+      and the vote is submitted to the Incubator PMC for approval by 
+      acclamation (silent approval, or lazy consensus). But if during 
+      private voting in the PPMC, fewer than three Incubator PMC members 
+      vote, the conclusion of the PPMC vote can only be considered a 
+      recommendation, and the vote must be put to the Incubator PMC.</p>
       <p>One of the PPMC members should lead the process of accepting 
       a new committer. For the purposes of this document, the proposing 
       PPMC member is referred to as the proposer, and the proposed 

Modified: incubator/public/trunk/site-publish/guides/ppmc.html
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/site-publish/guides/ppmc.html?rev=690794&r1=690793&r2=690794&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- incubator/public/trunk/site-publish/guides/ppmc.html (original)
+++ incubator/public/trunk/site-publish/guides/ppmc.html Sun Aug 31 15:06:59 2008
@@ -214,12 +214,34 @@
 <p>If a person has made significant contributions of
       high-quality, is interested in continuing to
       contribute, and works well with
-      others under the Apache guidelines, the project might vote to
+      others under the Apache guidelines, the project might want to
       grant that person <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#CommitAccess">
       commit access</a>. See the ASF <em>How it Works</em> document,
       which explains <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#meritocracy">
       meritocracy</a> and <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles">
       roles</a>.</p>
+<p>Voting a new committer is one of the most important functions 
+      of any PMC, and the Incubator is no different. Only votes of 
+      Incubator PMC members are binding (counted) when considering 
+      a new committer.  But the members of the PPMC, with direct oversight
+      over the podling, are best able to judge the qualifications and 
+      suitability of a proposed new committer. Therefore, the process 
+      for voting a new committer into an Incubator podling is a bit more 
+      complex than voting a new committer into a Top Level Project.</p>
+<p>The role of the PPMC in this process is recommendation to the 
+      Incubator PMC that one of the contributors to the podling is worthy 
+      of committership. The recommendation should reflect consensus of the 
+      PPMC. When it comes to voting, an affirmative vote of at least 
+      three Incubator PMC members is needed. Since the PPMC often contains 
+      only three Incubator PMC members (the podling's Mentors), the 
+      challenge for a PPMC to vote a new committer is to obtain three or 
+      more Incubator PMC members' votes. If all of the Mentors vote in 
+      favor of the new committer, the required number of votes is obtained, 
+      and the vote is submitted to the Incubator PMC for approval by 
+      acclamation (silent approval, or lazy consensus). But if during 
+      private voting in the PPMC, fewer than three Incubator PMC members 
+      vote, the conclusion of the PPMC vote can only be considered a 
+      recommendation, and the vote must be put to the Incubator PMC.</p>
 <p>One of the PPMC members should lead the process of accepting 
       a new committer. For the purposes of this document, the proposing 
       PPMC member is referred to as the proposer, and the proposed 



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