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From jerenkra...@apache.org
Subject svn commit: r417741 - in /incubator/public/trunk: site-author/guides/ppmc.xml site-publish/guides/ppmc.html
Date Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:11:25 GMT
Author: jerenkrantz
Date: Wed Jun 28 05:11:24 2006
New Revision: 417741

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=417741&view=rev
Log:
Tweak PPMC guide.

Modified:
    incubator/public/trunk/site-author/guides/ppmc.xml
    incubator/public/trunk/site-publish/guides/ppmc.html

Modified: incubator/public/trunk/site-author/guides/ppmc.xml
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/guides/ppmc.xml?rev=417741&r1=417740&r2=417741&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- incubator/public/trunk/site-author/guides/ppmc.xml (original)
+++ incubator/public/trunk/site-author/guides/ppmc.xml Wed Jun 28 05:11:24 2006
@@ -1,180 +1,153 @@
 <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
 <document>
-  <properties><!--
-
-    <meta content="HTML Tidy, see www.w3.org" name="generator"/>-->
-<!--
-
-    <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"/>-->
-
-    <title>Apache Incubator: Podling Project Management Committee
-</title>
+  <properties>
+    <title>Apache Incubator: Podling Project Management Committee</title>
   </properties>
   <body>
 
     <section id="PPMC">
       <title>Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC)</title>
-    <p>
-    The Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC) helps a
-    Podling learn how to govern itself.
-    It works like a PMC but reports to the Incubator PMC instead of to the
-    ASF Board.
-    Initially it is composed of the Podling's mentors.
-    The PPMC decides who to add as a member.
-    </p>
-    <p>
-    For general information about PMCs, see the
-    <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html">PMC FAQ</a>.
-    </p>
+        <p>The Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC) helps a
+        Podling learn how to govern itself.  It works like a PMC but
+        reports to the Incubator PMC instead of to the ASF Board.
+        Initially, it is composed of the Podling's mentors and initial
+        committers.  The PPMC is directly responsible for the oversight
+        of the podling and it also decides who to add as a PPMC member.</p>
+        
+        <p>For general information about PMCs, see the <a
+        href="http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html">PMC FAQ</a>.</p>
     </section>
 
     <section id="PPMC+Mail+List">
       <title>PPMC Mail List</title>
-      <p>
-      The PPMC mail list is used for private communication.
-      <em>Most communication should be on the Podling's dev list!</em>
-      The PPMC list is used only for confidential discussions that should 
-      not be made public, such as the suitability of a particular individual 
-      to become a committer or a member of the PPMC.
-      See the ASF <em>How it Works</em> section titled
-<a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#management">Balancing
-confidentiality and public discussion</a>.
-      </p>
+ 
+        <p>The PPMC mail list is used for private communication.
+        <em>Most communication should be on the Podling's dev list!</em>
+        The PPMC list is used only for confidential discussions that
+        should not be made public, such as the suitability of a
+        particular individual to become a committer or a member of the
+        PPMC. See the ASF <em>How it Works</em> section titled <a
+        href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#
+        management">Balancing confidentiality and public discussion</a>.
+        </p>
+
+      <p><b><em>Don't mix private and public lists in posts!</em></b></p>
+
+         <ul>
+           <li>Don't post to both the dev and PPMC lists.
+               Each member of the PPMC should be on the dev list, so posting
+               to dev is sufficient.</li>
+           <li>Likewise, don't post to both the Incubator general and
+               Incubator PMC lists. Each member of the Incubator PMC is on
+               the Incubator general list, so posting to general is
+               sufficient.</li>
+         </ul>
+    </section>
 
-      <p>Don't mix private and public lists in posts:</p>
+    <section id="Incubator+ASF+Board+Reports">
+      <title>Podling Status Reports</title>
+      <p>On a regular basis, reports from each incubating project are
+      aggregated and sent to the ASF Board. Watch the Incubator general
+      mail list for when these become due.</p>
+      <p>The Incubator reports to the ASF Board monthly and includes
+      status for a subset of the incubating projects. Currently new
+      Podlings report to the Incubator monthly for the first three
+      months, then quarterly thereafter. The <a
+      href="http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule">
+      reporting schedule</a> is on the <a
+      href="http://wiki.apache.org/incubator">Incubator Wiki</a>, which
+      is also used for Podlings to provide status.</p>
+
+      <p>The PPMC does not have to fill out the report itself; the PPMC
+      is just responsible for making sure that it gets filled out. In
+      fact, it is better to discuss the report on the dev list and ask
+      Podling developers to contribute to it. If Mentors disagree with
+      the posted report, they should say so; otherwise, the Incubator
+      PMC will assume that it speaks for the community.</p>
 
+      <p>Here are the points to be addressed:</p>
       <ul>
-        <li> Don't post to both the dev and PPMC lists.
-             Each member of the PPMC should be on the dev list, so posting
-             to dev is sufficient.
-        </li>
-        <li> Likewise, don't post to both the Incubator general and Incubator PMC lists.
-             Each member of the Incubator PMC is on the Incubator general list, 
-             so posting to general is sufficient.
-        </li>
+        <li>Is there anything that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board
+            specifically needs to address?</li>
+        <li>Are there any legal, infrastructure, cross-project or
+            personal issues that need to be addressed?  (Are
+            there any stumbling blocks that impede the podling?)</li>
+        <li>Check that the project's Incubation 
+            <a href="../projects/index.html">Status</a> file up to date.
+            (Also provide the URL.)</li>
+        <li>What has been done (releases, milestones, etc.) since the
+            last report?</li>
+        <li>What are the plans and expectations for the next period?</li>
+        <li>Are there any recommendations for how incubation could run more 
+            smoothly for you?</li>
+        <li>etc. (your own thoughts on what is important would be
+            helpful!)</li>
       </ul>
-    </section>
-
-    <section id="Incubator+ASF+Board+Reports">
-      <title>Incubator ASF Board Reports</title>
-      <p>
-      On a regular basis, reports from each incubating project are aggregated 
-      and sent to the ASF Board.
-      Watch the Incubator general mail list for when these become due.
-      </p>
-      <p>
-      The Incubator reports to the ASF Board monthly and includes status for
-      a subset of the incubating projects.
-      Currently new Podlings report to the Incubator monthly for the first three months,

-      then quarterly thereafter.
-      The 
-      <a href="http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule">reporting
-      schedule</a> is on the
-      <a href="http://wiki.apache.org/incubator">Incubator Wiki</a> ,
-      which is also used for Podlings to provide status.
-      </p>
-
-      <p>The PPMC does not have to fill out the report itself; 
-         the PPMC is just responsible for making sure that it gets filled out.
-         In fact, it
-         is better to discuss the report on the dev list and ask Podling
-         developers to contribute to it.
-         If Mentors disagree with the posted report, they should say so; 
-         otherwise, the Incubator PMC will assume that it speaks for the 
-         community.
-      </p>
-        <p>Here are the points to be addressed:</p>
-        <ul>
-          <li>Is the project's Incubation 
-            <a href="../projects/index.html">Status</a> file up to date? 
-             (Also provide the URL.)</li>
-          <li>Are there any legal, cross-project or personal issues that 
-              still need to be addressed?</li>
-          <li>What has been done, apart from the items listed in the
-              Incubation Status file, for incubation since the last report?</li>
-          <li>What are the plans and expectations for the next period?</li>
-          <li>Are there any recommendations for how incubation could run more 
-              smoothly for you?</li>
-          <li>etc. (your own thoughts on what is important would be
-              helpful!)</li>
-        </ul>
 
     </section>
 
     <section id="Project+Status+Updates">
-      <title>Project Status Updates</title>
-      <p>
-      Each Podling has a page on the Incubator web site that tracks the
-      status of that project 
-      (see the 
-      <a href="http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html">complete list</a>).
-      Instructions for updating it are in the
-      <a href="website.html">Incubator web site guide</a> under
-      <a href="website.html#Edit+your+project+status+report">Edit your project
-      status report</a>.
-      </p>
+      <title>Project Status Page</title>
+      <p>In addition to the quarterly status reports, each Podling has a
+      page on the Incubator web site that tracks the status
+      (see the <a
+      href="http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html">complete
+      list</a> for examples). Instructions for updating the status page
+      are in the <a href="website.html">Incubator web site guide</a>
+      under <a href="website.html#Edit+your+project+status+report">Edit
+      your project status report</a>.</p>
+      <p>This is the primary source of information about your podling's
+      status to the Incubator PMC and to the general public.  Be sure to
+      keep it updated as your podling progresses!</p>
     </section>
 
     <section id="Voting+in+a+new+committer">
-      <title>Voting in a new committer
-</title>
-      <p>If a developer has contributed a signicant number of high-quality
-patches, is interested in continuing the contribution, has
-demonstrated the ability to work well with others under the Apache
-guidelines, the project might vote to grant that developer
-
-        <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#CommitAccess">commit
access
-</a>. See the ASF <em>How it Works</em> document, which explains
-
-        <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles">meritocracy
-</a>and
-
-        <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles">roles
-</a>.
-
-      </p>
-      <p>Discussion of a potential new committer should take place on the
-project's PPMC list; normally it would take place on a project's PMC
-list. After vetting the new candidate, the vote can be called
-on either one of the two places listed below (notice the balance between
-private and public lists):
-      </p>
-
-<ul>
-      <li> The PPMC list, with notice posted to the Incubator PMC list.</li>
-      <li> The developer list, with notice posted to the Incubator 
-           general list. </li>
-</ul>
-
-<p>
-The practice of a private
-discussion followed by a public, pro-forma, vote is re-emerging as a
-Best Practice for ASF projects
-(see this comprehensive
-<a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=112033720600002">discussion</a>
-about these practices).
-</p>
-      <p> Only votes cast by (P)PMC members are binding.
-         If the vote is positive, the contributor formally becomes an Apache
-
-        <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#Committer">committer
-</a>. A (P)PMC member should then follow the
-
-        <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html">documented procedures
-</a>to complete the process, but
-        please CC both the Incubator PMC and the PPMC when sending the
-necessary e-mails to root.
-      </p>
-      <p>Please direct the new committer to the
-
-        <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/">Apache developer's pages,
-</a>to the
-
-        <a href="http://incubator.apache.org/">Apache Incubator site</a>
- and to the Incubator <a href="committer.html">Committers</a> Guide
-for important additional information.
+      <title>Voting in a new committer</title>
+      <p>If a developer has contributed a signicant number of
+      high-quality patches, is interested in continuing the
+      contribution, has demonstrated the ability to work well with
+      others under the Apache guidelines, the project might vote to
+      grant that developer <a
+      href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#CommitAccess"
+      >commit access </a>. See the ASF <em>How it Works</em> document,
+      which explains <a
+      href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles">
+      meritocracy </a>and <a
+      href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles">
+      roles </a>.</p>
+      
+      <p>Discussion of a potential new committer should take place on
+      the project's PPMC list; normally it would take place on a
+      project's PMC list. After vetting the new candidate, the vote can
+      be called on either one of the two places listed below (notice the
+      balance between private and public lists):</p>
+
+      <ul>
+        <li> The PPMC list, with notice posted to the Incubator PMC list.</li>
+        <li> The developer list, with notice posted to the Incubator 
+             general list.</li>
+      </ul>
 
-      </p>
+      <p>The practice of a private discussion followed by a public,
+      pro-forma, vote is re-emerging as a Best Practice for ASF projects
+      (see this comprehensive <a
+      href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=112033720600002">discussion</a>
+      about these practices). </p>
+      
+      <p>Only votes cast by (P)PMC members are binding. If the vote is
+      positive, the contributor formally becomes an Apache <a
+      href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#Committer">
+      committer </a>. A (P)PMC member should then follow the
+      <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html">documented procedures
+      </a>to complete the process, but please CC both the Incubator PMC
+      and the PPMC when sending the necessary e-mails to root.</p>
+
+      <p>Please direct the new committer to the <a
+      href="http://www.apache.org/dev/">Apache developer's pages, </a>to
+      the  <a href="http://incubator.apache.org/">Apache Incubator
+      site</a> and to the Incubator <a
+      href="committer.html">Committers</a> Guide for important additional
+      information.</p>
     </section>
   </body>
-</document>
+</document>
\ No newline at end of file

Modified: incubator/public/trunk/site-publish/guides/ppmc.html
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/site-publish/guides/ppmc.html?rev=417741&r1=417740&r2=417741&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- incubator/public/trunk/site-publish/guides/ppmc.html (original)
+++ incubator/public/trunk/site-publish/guides/ppmc.html Wed Jun 28 05:11:24 2006
@@ -18,8 +18,7 @@
  <head>
   <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
   <link rel="stylesheet" href="/style/style.css" type="text/css" />
-      <title>Apache Incubator: Podling Project Management Committee
- - Apache Incubator</title>
+      <title>Apache Incubator: Podling Project Management Committee - Apache Incubator</title>
  </head>
  <body>        
   <table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0">
@@ -81,165 +80,125 @@
    <a name="PPMC">Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC)</a>
 </h2>
 <div class="section-content">
-<p>
-    The Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC) helps a
-    Podling learn how to govern itself.
-    It works like a PMC but reports to the Incubator PMC instead of to the
-    ASF Board.
-    Initially it is composed of the Podling's mentors.
-    The PPMC decides who to add as a member.
-    </p>
-<p>
-    For general information about PMCs, see the
-    <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html">PMC FAQ</a>.
-    </p>
+<p>The Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC) helps a
+        Podling learn how to govern itself.  It works like a PMC but
+        reports to the Incubator PMC instead of to the ASF Board.
+        Initially, it is composed of the Podling's mentors and initial
+        committers.  The PPMC is directly responsible for the oversight
+        of the podling and it also decides who to add as a PPMC member.</p>
+<p>For general information about PMCs, see the <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html">PMC
FAQ</a>.</p>
 </div>
            <h2><img src="/images/redarrow.gif" />
    <a name="PPMC+Mail+List">PPMC Mail List</a>
 </h2>
 <div class="section-content">
-<p>
-      The PPMC mail list is used for private communication.
-      <em>Most communication should be on the Podling's dev list!</em>
-      The PPMC list is used only for confidential discussions that should 
-      not be made public, such as the suitability of a particular individual 
-      to become a committer or a member of the PPMC.
-      See the ASF <em>How it Works</em> section titled
-<a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#management">Balancing
-confidentiality and public discussion</a>.
-      </p>
-<p>Don't mix private and public lists in posts:</p>
+<p>The PPMC mail list is used for private communication.
+        <em>Most communication should be on the Podling's dev list!</em>
+        The PPMC list is used only for confidential discussions that
+        should not be made public, such as the suitability of a
+        particular individual to become a committer or a member of the
+        PPMC. See the ASF <em>How it Works</em> section titled <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#
        management">Balancing confidentiality and public discussion</a>.
+        </p>
+<p><b><em>Don't mix private and public lists in posts!</em></b></p>
 <ul>
-        <li> Don't post to both the dev and PPMC lists.
-             Each member of the PPMC should be on the dev list, so posting
-             to dev is sufficient.
-        </li>
-        <li> Likewise, don't post to both the Incubator general and Incubator PMC lists.
-             Each member of the Incubator PMC is on the Incubator general list, 
-             so posting to general is sufficient.
-        </li>
-      </ul>
+           <li>Don't post to both the dev and PPMC lists.
+               Each member of the PPMC should be on the dev list, so posting
+               to dev is sufficient.</li>
+           <li>Likewise, don't post to both the Incubator general and
+               Incubator PMC lists. Each member of the Incubator PMC is on
+               the Incubator general list, so posting to general is
+               sufficient.</li>
+         </ul>
 </div>
            <h2><img src="/images/redarrow.gif" />
-   <a name="Incubator+ASF+Board+Reports">Incubator ASF Board Reports</a>
+   <a name="Incubator+ASF+Board+Reports">Podling Status Reports</a>
 </h2>
 <div class="section-content">
-<p>
-      On a regular basis, reports from each incubating project are aggregated 
-      and sent to the ASF Board.
-      Watch the Incubator general mail list for when these become due.
-      </p>
-<p>
-      The Incubator reports to the ASF Board monthly and includes status for
-      a subset of the incubating projects.
-      Currently new Podlings report to the Incubator monthly for the first three months,

-      then quarterly thereafter.
-      The 
-      <a href="http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule">reporting
-      schedule</a> is on the
-      <a href="http://wiki.apache.org/incubator">Incubator Wiki</a> ,
-      which is also used for Podlings to provide status.
-      </p>
-<p>The PPMC does not have to fill out the report itself; 
-         the PPMC is just responsible for making sure that it gets filled out.
-         In fact, it
-         is better to discuss the report on the dev list and ask Podling
-         developers to contribute to it.
-         If Mentors disagree with the posted report, they should say so; 
-         otherwise, the Incubator PMC will assume that it speaks for the 
-         community.
-      </p>
+<p>On a regular basis, reports from each incubating project are
+      aggregated and sent to the ASF Board. Watch the Incubator general
+      mail list for when these become due.</p>
+<p>The Incubator reports to the ASF Board monthly and includes
+      status for a subset of the incubating projects. Currently new
+      Podlings report to the Incubator monthly for the first three
+      months, then quarterly thereafter. The <a href="http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule">
+      reporting schedule</a> is on the <a href="http://wiki.apache.org/incubator">Incubator
Wiki</a>, which
+      is also used for Podlings to provide status.</p>
+<p>The PPMC does not have to fill out the report itself; the PPMC
+      is just responsible for making sure that it gets filled out. In
+      fact, it is better to discuss the report on the dev list and ask
+      Podling developers to contribute to it. If Mentors disagree with
+      the posted report, they should say so; otherwise, the Incubator
+      PMC will assume that it speaks for the community.</p>
 <p>Here are the points to be addressed:</p>
 <ul>
-          <li>Is the project's Incubation 
-            <a href="../projects/index.html">Status</a> file up to date? 
-             (Also provide the URL.)</li>
-          <li>Are there any legal, cross-project or personal issues that 
-              still need to be addressed?</li>
-          <li>What has been done, apart from the items listed in the
-              Incubation Status file, for incubation since the last report?</li>
-          <li>What are the plans and expectations for the next period?</li>
-          <li>Are there any recommendations for how incubation could run more 
-              smoothly for you?</li>
-          <li>etc. (your own thoughts on what is important would be
-              helpful!)</li>
-        </ul>
+        <li>Is there anything that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board
+            specifically needs to address?</li>
+        <li>Are there any legal, infrastructure, cross-project or
+            personal issues that need to be addressed?  (Are
+            there any stumbling blocks that impede the podling?)</li>
+        <li>Check that the project's Incubation 
+            <a href="../projects/index.html">Status</a> file up to date.
+            (Also provide the URL.)</li>
+        <li>What has been done (releases, milestones, etc.) since the
+            last report?</li>
+        <li>What are the plans and expectations for the next period?</li>
+        <li>Are there any recommendations for how incubation could run more 
+            smoothly for you?</li>
+        <li>etc. (your own thoughts on what is important would be
+            helpful!)</li>
+      </ul>
 </div>
            <h2><img src="/images/redarrow.gif" />
-   <a name="Project+Status+Updates">Project Status Updates</a>
+   <a name="Project+Status+Updates">Project Status Page</a>
 </h2>
 <div class="section-content">
-<p>
-      Each Podling has a page on the Incubator web site that tracks the
-      status of that project 
-      (see the 
-      <a href="http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html">complete list</a>).
-      Instructions for updating it are in the
-      <a href="website.html">Incubator web site guide</a> under
-      <a href="website.html#Edit+your+project+status+report">Edit your project
-      status report</a>.
-      </p>
+<p>In addition to the quarterly status reports, each Podling has a
+      page on the Incubator web site that tracks the status
+      (see the <a href="http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html">complete
+      list</a> for examples). Instructions for updating the status page
+      are in the <a href="website.html">Incubator web site guide</a>
+      under <a href="website.html#Edit+your+project+status+report">Edit
+      your project status report</a>.</p>
+<p>This is the primary source of information about your podling's
+      status to the Incubator PMC and to the general public.  Be sure to
+      keep it updated as your podling progresses!</p>
 </div>
            <h2><img src="/images/redarrow.gif" />
-   <a name="Voting+in+a+new+committer">Voting in a new committer
-</a>
+   <a name="Voting+in+a+new+committer">Voting in a new committer</a>
 </h2>
 <div class="section-content">
-<p>If a developer has contributed a signicant number of high-quality
-patches, is interested in continuing the contribution, has
-demonstrated the ability to work well with others under the Apache
-guidelines, the project might vote to grant that developer
-
-        <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#CommitAccess">commit
access
-</a>. See the ASF <em>How it Works</em> document, which explains
-
-        <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles">meritocracy
-</a>and
-
-        <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles">roles
-</a>.
-
-      </p>
-<p>Discussion of a potential new committer should take place on the
-project's PPMC list; normally it would take place on a project's PMC
-list. After vetting the new candidate, the vote can be called
-on either one of the two places listed below (notice the balance between
-private and public lists):
-      </p>
+<p>If a developer has contributed a signicant number of
+      high-quality patches, is interested in continuing the
+      contribution, has demonstrated the ability to work well with
+      others under the Apache guidelines, the project might vote to
+      grant that developer <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#CommitAccess">commit
access </a>. See the ASF <em>How it Works</em> document,
+      which explains <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles">
+      meritocracy </a>and <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles">
+      roles </a>.</p>
+<p>Discussion of a potential new committer should take place on
+      the project's PPMC list; normally it would take place on a
+      project's PMC list. After vetting the new candidate, the vote can
+      be called on either one of the two places listed below (notice the
+      balance between private and public lists):</p>
 <ul>
-      <li> The PPMC list, with notice posted to the Incubator PMC list.</li>
-      <li> The developer list, with notice posted to the Incubator 
-           general list. </li>
-</ul>
-<p>
-The practice of a private
-discussion followed by a public, pro-forma, vote is re-emerging as a
-Best Practice for ASF projects
-(see this comprehensive
-<a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=112033720600002">discussion</a>
-about these practices).
-</p>
-<p> Only votes cast by (P)PMC members are binding.
-         If the vote is positive, the contributor formally becomes an Apache
-
-        <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#Committer">committer
-</a>. A (P)PMC member should then follow the
-
-        <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html">documented procedures
-</a>to complete the process, but
-        please CC both the Incubator PMC and the PPMC when sending the
-necessary e-mails to root.
-      </p>
-<p>Please direct the new committer to the
-
-        <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/">Apache developer's pages,
-</a>to the
-
-        <a href="http://incubator.apache.org/">Apache Incubator site</a>
- and to the Incubator <a href="committer.html">Committers</a> Guide
-for important additional information.
-
-      </p>
+        <li> The PPMC list, with notice posted to the Incubator PMC list.</li>
+        <li> The developer list, with notice posted to the Incubator 
+             general list.</li>
+      </ul>
+<p>The practice of a private discussion followed by a public,
+      pro-forma, vote is re-emerging as a Best Practice for ASF projects
+      (see this comprehensive <a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=112033720600002">discussion</a>
+      about these practices). </p>
+<p>Only votes cast by (P)PMC members are binding. If the vote is
+      positive, the contributor formally becomes an Apache <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#Committer">
+      committer </a>. A (P)PMC member should then follow the
+      <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html">documented procedures
+      </a>to complete the process, but please CC both the Incubator PMC
+      and the PPMC when sending the necessary e-mails to root.</p>
+<p>Please direct the new committer to the <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/">Apache
developer's pages, </a>to
+      the  <a href="http://incubator.apache.org/">Apache Incubator
+      site</a> and to the Incubator <a href="committer.html">Committers</a>
Guide for important additional
+      information.</p>
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