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Subject [Incubator Wiki] Update of "OFBizProposal" by DavidWelton
Date Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:36:35 GMT
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                              OFBiz Proposal

This proposal outlines the creation of a new, top-level Open for Business (OFBiz) project
within the Apache Software Foundation.


The Open For Business Project is an open source enterprise automation software project.
By open source enterprise automation we mean: Open Source ERP, Open Source CRM,
Open Source E-Business / E-Commerce, Open Source SCM, Open Source MRP, Open
Source CMMS/EAM, and so on. It is one of the few apps of this type to be under a
"BSD-style" license, and developed by a community, rather than one corporation.
The maintainers of OFBiz are interested in joining the Apache Software Foundation for
several reasons:

 The legal umbrella. There are no outstanding legal issues with OFBiz, but the
   protection that Apache affords is valuable to the developers' peace of mind as their
   project grows. It is a benefit for both contributors and end-users to have a trusted
   entity involved with this aspect of the software.
 Resolve current potential licensing issues with copyright license assignment and
   patent license grants that are addressed in the Apache 2.0 license, but not in the MIT
   license. We had considered making this change independently earlier this year.
 Increase public awareness of OFBiz and of the application of Apache licensing to
   business aplication level software. Lately the news is full of companies that are using
   a dual-license (GPL and commercial) model for enterprise software and OFBiz
   working with Apache opens an opportunity to strengthen what we feel is a much
   higher value way of doing things for both contributors and users.
 Help the project attract contributors and service providers to attract clients who would
   feel more comfortable with the licensing coming through a well known and
   established organization like Apache.



OFBiz has striven to foster a diverse community that is open to everyone. It is released
under a non-reciprocal license to encourage the maximum possible adoption by all
potential users and developers. The OFBiz community encourages suggestions and
contributions from any potential user, and more developers have joined as contributors
since the project's inception in 2001.


OFBiz was originally created by David E. Jones and Andy Zeneski in May 2001. The
project now has committers and users from around the world. The newer committers of
the project joined in subsequent years by initially submitting patches, then having
commit privileges for some of the applications, and then privileges over a larger range of
applications. The project members understand the importance of letting motivated
individuals contribute to the project after they have proven themselves.

Scope of Subprojects

OFBiz is distributed as one large subversion tree, but contains two distinct parts: a
framework, and a number of applications built with that framework. At some point in
the future, it is conceivable that these become two subprojects, or more, were
applications deemed suitable to be developed independently. Additionally, the OFBiz
subversion repository contains a "specialized" directory with vertical applications
specific to particular businesses. Where these are grown and contributed to, they could
also potentially take on a "life of their own", or split off into separate projects that do
ship with the core.


OFBiz is both a set of flexible, extensible applications such as "e-commerce", "order
management", "catalog management", "work effort" and so on, designed by engineers
with years of experience in the problem domain, as well as a framework that makes it
possible to create new applications that exist with others.

Initial Source

OFBiz was developed by David E. Jones and Andy Zeneski.

Resources to be Created

User, Dev, and Announce mailing lists.
Copy current subversion code, and create a commits mailing list.
Copy JIRA issues into Apache system.
Create Wiki?

Avoiding the Warning Signs

Orphaned products:

The OFBiz code is currently used and maintained by the authors and others, who depend
on it for their livelihood. Continued development of OFBiz continues on a daily basis,
and there are on average 50 new commits to the OFBiz SVN source tree per week. In
fact, there is a weekly development summary on this web site:

Inexperience with Open Source:

The developers use a number of other open source projects within OFBiz, and are
interested in how best to make open source work with their project, both from a
community and business perspective.

Homogeneous Developers:

The developers are diverse, both geographically and in terms of their employers:

   David E. Jones and Andy Zeneski are from the United States (Orem, UT and New
   York City) and are the founders of Undersun Consulting LLC (which is a separate and
   independent entity from The Open For Business Project and has no ownership or other
   legal relationship to it, as was planned from the beginning).

   Hans Bakker is from the Netherlands but now lives in Thailand and runs consulting
   and services companies in both countries.

   Al Byers is from Utah and is an independent consultant.

   Jacopo Cappellato is from Italy and works on manufacturing management and related
   software for his company, TAU Informatica SrL.

   Si Chen is from Los Angeles and is both an OFBiz user at his company Gracious
   Style, Inc. and service provider at Open Source Strategies, Inc.

   In addition, there are other contributors from France, Germany, Portugal, the UK, US,
   Canada, Australia, India, Japan, China, and various other countries.

   Many contributors come from a software background, but OFBiz has also attracted
   many people from business and other backgrounds that are somewhat technical and
   have learned enough of the technology to contribute significantly to the project.

Reliance on Salaried Developers:

There is a good balance of developers in the OFBiz community today. Many of the
developers are independents who rely on OFBiz for their consulting work, while others
work at end user organizations for whom OFBiz is a core part of the technology mix.

No Ties to other Apache Products:

Many Apache products are used within OFBiz, including Tomcat, Derby, Xerces, Jakarta
commons, Lucene, Xalan, ORO, Log4j. Also, the proprietary bug tracking tool used at
the ASF, JIRA, is based on technology from OFBiz.

A Fascination with the Apache Brand:

The developers of OFBiz have been quite successful on their own and could continue on
that path with no problems at all. They are interested in joining the ASF in order to
increase their contacts and visibility in the open source world.


David E. Jones
Andy Zeneski
Si Chen
Al Byers
Jacopo Cappellato
Hans Bakker
Proposed Apache Sponsor
Board of Directors


David N. Welton <>
Yoav Shapira <>

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