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From andy mcmurry <mcmurry.a...@gmail.com>
Subject RE: cTAKES 3.0.0 Feedback Was: RE: [DISCUSS] Graduate cTAKES from Incubator
Date Wed, 20 Feb 2013 03:38:53 GMT
+1 nomination to graduate ctakes.
+1 request to create examples

I'll attempt the smoking status and medication NER examples for after
release (volunteer for task)
On Feb 19, 2013 10:29 PM, "Chen, Pei" <Pei.Chen@childrens.harvard.edu>
wrote:

> I don't think ASF automatically makes any official press releases about
> graduated projects other than the public resolutions.  But in our announce
> to general@ about the release, I think we can explicitly say that this is
> our first release in ASF and that it was primarily an infra one just to
> make the move from SF to ASF.
> (Essentially for us to learn the ropes here.)
>
> Also feel free to take a peek at:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CTAKES
> There are plenty of items we could do to improve cTAKES for the upcoming
> release(s) [Hopefully we'll be able to follow the "Release Early, Release
> Often" philosophy [1]] .  Will welcome any contributions (especially yours
> regarding the end user experience which I think it's extremely important)
> and also feel free to add to the Jira items...
>
> My point of view with OS is that if something sucks, you can usually
> expect it to be fixed pretty fast as long as there is an mechanism for
> accepting changes.  I believe ASF is much more about building a diverse
> community and to have a framework in place for folks to make contributions
> (so I actually don't necessary believe it is negative that more people use
> cTAKES and therefore could be future contributors).
>
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#releases
>
> --Pei
>
> ________________________________________
> From: andy mcmurry [mcmurry.andy@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:42 PM
> To: ctakes-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: cTAKES 3.0.0 Feedback Was: RE: [DISCUSS] Graduate cTAKES from
> Incubator
>
> Message received, and from that perspective I agree to graduate.
>
> Revised proposal to group:  no press advertisements about the release until
> docs are ready.
>
> . If Apache does promotions for graduated incubators then we should request
> holding off press releases until the docs are ready.
>
> My  battle scars from other open source projects remind me that if you ask
> for attention be ready for lots of questions and short attention spans.
> On Feb 19, 2013 6:13 PM, "Chen, Pei" <Pei.Chen@childrens.harvard.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > Andy,
> > The purpose of this release is primarily infrastructural. There are a lot
> > of tasks involved in the move to ASF and many reasons for separating his
> > release. One of them is that it's probably not a great idea to have major
> > code fixes/changes mixed in with just a refactoring change.
> >
> > Regarding ease of use- agree with all of the points.
> > cTAKES has historically been a collection of annotators and reusing
> UIMA's
> > UI as examples and no real application built on top of it. However, there
> > is a web GUI current in sandbox that should make things more intuitive.
> > However, in order to produce releases efficiently and often, I believe we
> > need graduate to a TLP (based on experience so far with the incubator).
> We
> > should be able to address those issues fairly quickly with incremental
> > releases.
> >
> > The downloads page should work all the time as its pretty basic
> > functionality; It's not good if its flaky. Could others recreate the
> issue?
> > Would be good if others could recreate it so we could get to the root of
> > the issue.
> > My 2 cents.
> >
> > -Pei
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 19, 2013, at 5:47 PM, "andy mcmurry" <mcmurry.andy@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you Troy!
> > >
> > > *Summary: what is the purpose of the 3.0.0 release: changing the
> license
> > to
> > > Apache or getting new users? *
> > >
> > > Releasing 3.0.0 without DOCS is OK so long as the expected user base is
> > > CURRENT cTAKES users.
> > > If that is the case and this transition is 100% about changing the
> > license
> > > to Apache, then OK.
> > >
> > > NEW users coming to cTAKES will probably be overwhelmed, for all the
> > > reasons discussed.
> > > We will likely "lose" these new users who will not come back when the
> > docs
> > > are ready a month later.
> > >
> > > *Question for the group : who is the intended audience of the 3.0.0
> > > release? *
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Bleeker, Troy C. <
> Bleeker.Troy@mayo.edu
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Summarizing where we are now ... completed items at the bottom of the
> > list
> > >> for reference only.
> > >>
> > >> The community decided to release cTAKES 3.0 without the doc being
> > complete
> > >> - these must be next:
> > >> - The Developer Guide is not complete.
> > >> [TODO] Dev Guide needs command line install instructions for UMLS
> ID/pw
> > >> and classpath. I'll work on this.
> > >> - The User Guide has a caveat on the table at the bottom of the
> > >> instructions because a similar set of examples was not distributed
> like
> > it
> > >> was in 2.5. The instructions are longer as well since the user could
> not
> > >> just load and run existing samples.
> > >> [TODO] Consider shipping test data resources from SourceForge in a ZIP
> > >> file.
> > >> - The Getting Started page needs to be written in context of all
> future
> > >> releases not just 3.0.
> > >> [NEEDS REVIEW] A page was written. Is it as expected?
> > >> - Previous releases list. We need to both point to the NCI sites for
> 2.6
> > >> and back plus create an archive for what will be the history of Apache
> > >> releases. Needs work your right.
> > >> [TODO] For now I removed 2 of the 3 links leaving only one that points
> > >> back to NCI for 2.5 and back. Question is should we have a full
> listing
> > of
> > >> the 2.5 and previous releases on the Apache site or simply point to
> the
> > NCI
> > >> wiki. If point to NCI then there is no archive to be had yet since the
> > only
> > >> release in Apache is the current release.
> > >> - Component Use Guide pages needing updates. There are items marked in
> > >> reddish color that are incorrect or in need of updates on these pages:
> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES/cTAKES+3.0+-+Core
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES/cTAKES+3.0+-+Dependency+Parser+and+Semantic+Role+Labeler
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES/cTAKES+3.0+-+Drug+Named+Entity+Recognition
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES/cTAKES+3.0+-+NE+Contexts
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES/cTAKES+3.0+-+PAD+Term+Spotter
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES/cTAKES+3.0+-+POS+Tagger
> > >> [TODO] Component knowledgeable people must update these pages.
> > >>
> > >> Potential priorities after that:
> > >> - The examples, as described by Andy, would be more than a readme
> should
> > >> have. This would be great for a how-to guide. The Developer Guide and
> > User
> > >> Guide have historically been install guides not how-to guides. I don't
> > >> think a how-to guide should be incorporated into these but should be
> its
> > >> own document.
> > >> [TODO] Should the current user and dev guides be renamed?
> > >> - cTAKES has never had a how-to guide that I know of. Making one would
> > be
> > >> great and as you say should include things like 1) pointers to where
> to
> > >> find basic information 2) very high level overview of the components
> in
> > the
> > >> context of using them to do a very basic task like 3) I think it was
> > >> suggested that the Getting Started page might be something like this
> in
> > >> very short form. If we did that then it would point to a more
> > comprehensive
> > >> how-to guide.
> > >> [TODO] Decide if we are going to do this.
> > >> - Project history page of all cTAKES releases placed on Apache sites
> > >> somewhere. Good plan if short. I would not copy readmes there but have
> > >> links to them.
> > >> [TODO] This was done in the past but removed from the bottom of the
> > >> downloads page. This page exists now but is not linked to from the
> > Apache
> > >> cTAKES site. Here is a direct link:
> > >> http://incubator.apache.org/ctakes/roadmap.html  It would need 3.0
> info
> > >> added if we decide to use it.
> > >> - Creating a single download for a newcomer.
> > >> [LATER] This has been discussed and tabled by the community for the
> time
> > >> being in order to get the 3.0 release done and out the door. We need
> to
> > >> come back to this in order to make the best first impression.
> > >>
> > >> Completed:
> > >> - The downloads page must work. It now seems to function alright
> > ***IF***
> > >> you refresh the page or select a mirror and click the Change button.
> If
> > you
> > >> do neither and try to download you get this error: "The requested URL
> > >>
> >
> /ctakes/[preferred]incubator/ctakes/apache-ctakes-3.0.0-incubating-bin.tar.gz
> > >> was not found on this server." Anyone have time to fix this?
> > >> [WORK-AROUND] Seems intermittent. Tried 5 different machines. James
> and
> > >> Troy changed the downloads page to tell the user to select the Change
> > >> button when they have issues. It should work if they do that. Best
> > guess -
> > >> the randomly selected mirror sites do not all work. Also, selecting a
> > site
> > >> in the drop-down and pressing the Change button does not set the
> mirror
> > >> site to the one you selected. Next best guess - other Apache sites
> have
> > a
> > >> double // in the URL just after the mirror domain in the file download
> > >> link. Maybe this is required. Tried this too.
> > >> - Adding a link to the install instructions makes it obvious (which I
> > have
> > >> done to the page) but it was there in a sense.
> > >> [DONE] Link added.
> > >> - "Last official release" was held until now. Since 3.0 is going to be
> > >> officially announced, 3.0 will go there. I made that change as well.
> > >> [DONE] Reworked the page.
> > >> - A list of changed features has not been high priority since the
> > original
> > >> goal was to make a 3.0 in Apache that pretty much matched the function
> > of
> > >> 2.5. The only thing that changed was how the product is built and
> > shipped.
> > >> Nevertheless we need to state at least that somewhere.
> > >> [DONE] That was wrong, there is new function. Relation Extractor now
> > >> documented on the downloads page.
> > >> - The resources file is 1.1 GB not 2 right?
> > >> [DONE] Andy said it in an email. The web site lists it fine.
> > >> - There are still 3.0 developer and user guide pages on the cTAKES
> home
> > >> site that should be removed so no one stumbles on to them.
> > >> [DONE] Removed.
> > >> - Where would a newcomer hit first? Internet search for "ctakes" or
> > >> "ctakes 3.0" is probably first. Top hits on those lists should be
> > modified
> > >> to point to the best Apache cTAKES landing page.
> > >> [DONE] James and Troy made changes to the top hit pages and other
> places
> > >> that made sense.
> > >> - The current guides are still not complete.
> > >> [DONE] User Guide James and Troy went through.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >> Troy
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: ctakes-dev-return-1250-Bleeker.Troy=
> mayo.edu@incubator.apache.org
> > [mailto:
> > >> ctakes-dev-return-1250-Bleeker.Troy=mayo.edu@incubator.apache.org] On
> > >> Behalf Of Masanz, James J.
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:10 AM
> > >> To: 'ctakes-dev@incubator.apache.org'
> > >> Subject: RE: cTAKES 3.0.0 Feedback Was: RE: [DISCUSS] Graduate cTAKES
> > from
> > >> Incubator
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> - The resources file is 1.1 GB not 2 right?
> > >>
> > >> I agree. But I don't see it listed as 2GB on the download page. If you
> > >> tell me where you saw it listed as 2GB I will update that page.
> > >>
> > >>> - A list of changed features has not been high priority since
> > >> I will update the downloads page right now stating the relation
> > extractor
> > >> is new for 3.0
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> - Where would a newcomer hit first? Internet search for "ctakes" or
> > >>> "ctakes 3.0" is probably first. Top hits on those lists should be
> > >>> modified to point to the best Apache cTAKES landing page.
> > >>
> > >> I modified the following pages to have a link to Apache cTAKES home
> page
> > >>
> > >> https://wiki.nci.nih.gov/display/VKC/cTAKES+2.5
> > >> https://sourceforge.net/projects/ohnlp/files/cTAKES/
> > >> https://sourceforge.net/projects/ohnlp/
> > >> http://ohnlp.sourceforge.net/
> > >>
> > >> The update to the last one is not appearing yet, but it was updated.
> > >>
> > >>> - The Getting Started page needs to be written in context of all
> future
> > >>> releases not just 3.0.
> > >>
> > >> Looks like you updated that page, thanks.
> > >>
> > >>> - The current guides are still not complete.
> > >>
> > >> I took a quick run through the User Guide on the Wiki and made some
> > >> updates.
> > >>
> > >> -- James Masanz
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: ctakes-dev-return-1239-Masanz.James=
> > mayo.edu@incubator.apache.org
> > >>> [mailto:ctakes-dev-return-1239-
> > >>> Masanz.James=mayo.edu@incubator.apache.org] On Behalf Of Bleeker,
> Troy
> > >>> C.
> > >>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 10:58 AM
> > >>> To: ctakes-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >>> Subject: RE: cTAKES 3.0.0 Feedback Was: RE: [DISCUSS] Graduate cTAKES
> > >>> from Incubator
> > >>>
> > >>> All the suggestions and discussion are good. There's a lot here,
> sorry
> > >>> for the long summary. First things first:
> > >>>
> > >>> - The downloads page must work. It now seems to function alright
> > >>> ***IF*** you refresh the page or select a mirror and click the Change
> > >>> button. If you do neither and try to download you get this error:
> "The
> > >>> requested URL
> /ctakes/[preferred]incubator/ctakes/apache-ctakes-3.0.0-
> > >>> incubating-bin.tar.gz was not found on this server." Anyone have time
> > to
> > >>> fix this?
> > >>> - Adding a link to the install instructions makes it obvious (which
I
> > >>> have done to the page) but it was there in a sense. The page said
> "Use
> > >>> the Developer and User Guides to direct you through the installation
> > >>> process." and the links to those were just to the left in the
> > hierarchy.
> > >>> - "Last official release" was held until now. Since 3.0 is going to
> be
> > >>> officially announced, 3.0 will go there. I made that change as well.
> > >>> - A list of changed features has not been high priority since the
> > >>> original goal was to make a 3.0 in Apache that pretty much matched
> the
> > >>> function of 2.5. The only thing that changed was how the product is
> > >>> built and shipped. Nevertheless we need to state at least that
> > >>> somewhere.
> > >>> - The resources file is 1.1 GB not 2 right?
> > >>>
> > >>> Keep in mind that the community decided to release cTAKES 3.0 without
> > >>> the doc being complete, but these must be next:
> > >>> - The current guides are still not complete. I made it through the
> > >>> developer guide but the user guide still has problems. I get errors
> > >>> after installing and running scripts. I have not been able to try the
> > >>> comparison test that was available previously. The table at the
> bottom
> > I
> > >>> have not got to yet.
> > >>> - We have 2 sites now 1) cTAKES home
> > http://incubator.apache.org/ctakes/
> > >>> 2) cTAKES doc https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES.
> I've
> > >>> done my best to minimize a user going back and forth. We have it this
> > >>> way because a useful guide is not easy (IMHO or even possible) with
> > >>> markdown text in the cTAKES home pages. There are still 3.0 developer
> > >>> and user guide pages on the cTAKES home site that should be removed
> so
> > >>> no one stumbles on to them.
> > >>> - The Getting Started page needs to be written in context of all
> future
> > >>> releases not just 3.0.
> > >>> - Previous releases list. We need to both point to the NCI sites for
> > 2.6
> > >>> and back plus create an archive for what will be the history of
> Apache
> > >>> releases. Needs work your right.
> > >>>
> > >>> Potential priorities after that:
> > >>> - The examples, as described by Andy, would be more than a readme
> > should
> > >>> have. This would be great for a how-to guide.
> > >>> - The Developer Guide and User Guide have historically been install
> > >>> guides not how-to guides. I don't think a how-to guide should be
> > >>> incorporated into these but should be its own document.
> > >>> - cTAKES has never had a how-to guide that I know of. Making one
> would
> > >>> be great and as you say should include things like 1) pointers to
> where
> > >>> to find basic information 2) very high level overview of the
> components
> > >>> in the context of using them to do a very basic task like 3) I think
> it
> > >>> was suggested that the Getting Started page might be something like
> > this
> > >>> in very short form. If we did that then it would point to a more
> > >>> comprehensive how-to guide.
> > >>> - Project history page of all cTAKES releases placed on Apache sites
> > >>> somewhere. Good plan if short. I would not copy readmes there but
> have
> > >>> links to them.
> > >>> I already did this for cTAKES 2.5 and past:
> > >>> https://wiki.nci.nih.gov/display/VKC/cTAKES+Roadmap
> > >>> Move this page to Apache? Have a page on Apache that continues this
> and
> > >>> points back to what already exists?
> > >>> Also, I had this project history on the Apache cTAKES downloads page
> > but
> > >>> that section was removed when 3.0 was placed on there. If you can
> find
> > >>> the history of changes to that page you may find something already
> done
> > >>> in markdown format.
> > >>> - Creating a single download for a newcomer. This has been discussed
> > and
> > >>> tabled by the community for the time being in order to get the 3.0
> > >>> release done and out the door. We need to come back to this in order
> to
> > >>> make the best first impression.
> > >>>
> > >>> Troy
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: ctakes-dev-return-1230-Bleeker.Troy=
> > mayo.edu@incubator.apache.org
> > >>> [mailto:ctakes-dev-return-1230-
> > >>> Bleeker.Troy=mayo.edu@incubator.apache.org] On Behalf Of Chen, Pei
> > >>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:17 PM
> > >>> To: ctakes-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >>> Subject: cTAKES 3.0.0 Feedback Was: RE: [DISCUSS] Graduate cTAKES
> from
> > >>> Incubator
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks Andy for the feedback.
> > >>> Examples are a good idea- Were you thinking of adding it to the
> README
> > >>> file or the confluence user guide?
> > >>>
> > >>> Feel free to update the downloads page(s) (it uses Apache CMS) and
> the
> > >>> User Guides (Confluence wiki).
> > >>> Note: The release is still being replicated to all of the mirrors and
> > >>> may take up to 24 hrs, so I would wait until after the weekend before
> > >>> testing all of the mirror links.
> > >>>
> > >>> --Pei
> > >>> ________________________________________
> > >>> From: Andy McMurry [mcmurry.andy@gmail.com]
> > >>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:08 PM
> > >>> To: ctakes-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate cTAKES from Incubator
> > >>>
> > >>> Clarifications
> > >>>
> > >>> There isn't a last Apache release. But there are last previous NIH,
> > >>> Sourceforge, and Apache releases?
> > >>> TODO: Project History Page (Simple, just the releases and times,
> > ideally
> > >>> with JIRA generated release notes).
> > >>>
> > >>> Suggestion: Demonstration > explanation. Use Examples !!
> > >>>
> > >>> EXAMPLE 1 : Basic Pipeline (without UMLS)
> > >>>
> > >>> ** SHOW Before and after clinical text, demonstrates purpose
> > >>> ** LIST the 5 steps
> > >>> ** Most impressive demo would be the smoking status pipeline
> > >>>
> > >>> EXAMPLE 2: Basic Pipeline (with UMLS)
> > >>>
> > >>> ** SHOW Before and after (input text -> output annotations)
> > >>> ** LIST the steps
> > >>> ** Most impressive demo would be a negation of a cancer diagnosis and
> > >>> NER of a medication (chemotherapuetic drug).
> > >>>
> > >>> Thoughts?
> > >>> --andy
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Feb 15, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Andy McMurry <mcmurry.andy@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Sure thing Pei.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I dont think cTAKES is ready for attention grabbing release (humble
> > >>> opinion).
> > >>>> And when you release you want to grab attention! ! cTAKES is
> awesome!!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Suggestions (release blockers)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> (1) Downloads
> > >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/ctakes/downloads.cgi
> > >>>> ! Link to install instructions is not there but "Verifying
> signatures"
> > >>> takes up 20% of the page. NEEDS OBVIOUS LINK TO  INSTALL
> INSTRUCTIONS.
> > >>>> ! Last official release is blank because there isn't one, remove
it
> !
> > >>>> First mirror I tried was a 404? (not sure which one). I changed
the
> > >>>> mirror then OK. Test all mirrors (script) ? Previous releases are
> VERY
> > >>> confusing.
> > >>>> ? The NIH and SourceForge pages  should redirect to cTAKES, google
> > >>> "cTAKES download" and imagine how confused a beginner would be.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> (2) User Guide
> > >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/ctakes/3.0.0/user-guide-3.0
> > >>>> ? 3.0.0 : no list of new features from last stable release. Why
> would
> > >>> a user bother to upgrade to a beta?
> > >>>> ! Would be better to have a bundled download with resources, if
> > >>> possible. Otherwise, make it clear to a newcomer what the benefit of
> > >>> getting UMLS / LVG is. (one sentence).
> > >>>> ! Needs a very high level overview of the components in the context
> of
> > >>> using them to do a very basic task like.
> > >>>> ! This is likely the most frequently accessed document for cTAKES.
> It
> > >>> has almost no pointers to where to find basic information.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> (3) OTHER
> > >>>> * The NCI and SourceForge links are now highly confusing.
> > >>>> * While I am downloading, I should be reading the recommended "Get
> > >>>> Started" guide
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm still downloading the 2GB resources file.
> > >>>> I'll try and get back to you about the install when that is done
> too.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This constructive criticism is because I believe cTAKES is AWESOME.
> > >>>> Hard to see how awesome it is given the current instructions.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --Andy
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Feb 15, 2013, at 5:02 PM, "Chen, Pei"
> > >>> <Pei.Chen@childrens.harvard.edu> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi Andy,
> > >>>>> So much has changed in cTAKES since last year, if you have
a
> chance-
> > >>> do you also want to try downloading the -bin and ensure at least the
> > >>> steps in the README are able to get you started?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --Pei
> > >>>>> ________________________________________
> > >>>>> From: Andy McMurry [mcmurry.andy@gmail.com]
> > >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 4:04 PM
> > >>>>> To: ctakes-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate cTAKES from Incubator
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Suggestion: can we get a good programmer with no cTAKES experience
> to
> > >>> kick the tires and tell us how long it took to get started?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> John Resig (jQuery founder) once told me "if it takes more
than 15
> > >>> minutes to get started, then that is way too long".
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> "What is necessary is that enough investment be put into
> presentation
> > >>>>> that newcomers can get past the obstacle of unfamiliarity.
...
> > >>> Hactivation energy: the amount of energy a newcomer must put in
> before
> > >>> she starts getting something back"
> > >>>>> -- From "Producing Open Source Software"
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > http://books.google.com/books?id=0vbr7xvvzjgC&pg=PA21&lpg=PA21&dq=hac
> > >>>>>
> ktivation+energy&source=bl&ots=D0hP85ndwz&sig=G5HO-7GbLqQPwLaI6210D9W
> > >>>>>
> Gk2E&hl=en&sa=X&ei=N6EeUZXVHMHhiALq3YG4BQ&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q
> > >>>>> =hacktivation%20energy&f=false
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:55 PM, "Chen, Pei"
> > >>> <Pei.Chen@childrens.harvard.edu> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> This is to open a discussion to graduate Apache cTAKES
podling
> from
> > >>> the Apache Incubator.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Apache cTAKES entered the Incubator in June of 2012. We
have made
> > >>> significant progress with the project since moving over to Apache.
We
> > >>> currently have 18 committers listed on our status page at [1]
> including
> > >>> over 10 which accepted after the podling was formed.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> During incubation, cTAKES has :
> > >>>>>> * Produced 1 Release
> > >>>>>> * Added 10 new Committer/PPMC members and shows constant
community
> > >>>>>> activities
> > >>>>>> * Cleared IP on code
> > >>>>>> * Developed Roadmap(s) for the next major and minor releases
in a
> > >>>>>> community process and started working on that [2]
> > >>>>>> * The community of Apache cTAKES is active, healthy, and
growing
> and
> > >>> has demonstrated the ability to self-govern using accepted Apache
> > >>> practices.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> [1] http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ctakes
> > >>>>>> [2]
> > >>>>>>
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CTAKES#selectedTab=com.atlassi
> > >>>>>> an.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aroadmap-panel
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>

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