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From "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <>
Subject Re: SVN source structure for Apache cTAKES?
Date Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:03:24 GMT
Hi Pei,

On Jul 20, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Chen, Pei wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> Steve and el. is correct.  There was a previously pending release currently in SourceForge
(called 2.6) scheduled some time ago.

I understand that -- but things can be changed, no? And if not, why not?

> Our plan is to make a clean break from SourceForge after this release to avoid any duplicate
effort as you suggested.  

I get that -- my main concern now is that there are people developing code on cTAKES at
were not proposed as Apache cTAKES committers. This will cause problems down the road potentially
due to grants/IPs on the code, and clean provenance. I'm also kind of concerned that you guys
declare these people on the Incubator proposal, and would like to know the reason.

> And going forward we anticipate that all work should be done from the Apache SVN.

Great, my question is, why not now? If you are so close to making a cTAKES 2.6 release at
why not do it here?

> We didn't document the actual plan yet on the proposal as to how the actual migration
would occur thinking that it would be part of the incubation process.

Sure -- but you are clearly operating in some documented mode over there at, no? Why
not adopt 
that mode here at the ASF? 

I'm not saying that 2.6 CAN'T go out at -- I'm simply encouraging the Apache cTAKES
(who also seem to be wearing the cTAKES hats as well) to consider making 2.6 here --
from a community perspective, but also from a provenance one, and also from a not duplicating
one, and finally from an Apache good will perspective. 

I'll be blunt -- you guys didn't mention this parallel development in your proposal and folks
at the ASF
VOTEd this project into the Incubator without full knowledge. I don't think it's a blocker
to moving forward,
but I think we need to get our heads on straight and start having this project undergo development
(all phases, not just *NEW*) here at the ASF. That's what I was VOTE'ing for, and signing
up for, as your
mentor, at least speaking from my own opinion.


Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA

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