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From Gabriel Reid <gabriel.r...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: New module to share user functions
Date Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:31:45 GMT
+1 on crunch-contrib. Even though it is a bit boring, it's in line with what the majority of
other java-based Apache projects do, which makes it instantly clear as to what it's about.


I like the more catchy names as well, but I think that clarity is even more important. 


On Thursday 27 September 2012 at 18:11, Josh Wills wrote:

> crunch-contrib would be the most standard nomenclature, yes? Even
> though it's a little boring. ;-)
> 
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Matthias Friedrich <matt@mafr.de (mailto:matt@mafr.de)>
wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm fine with any that makes remotely sense to a non-native speaker :)
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Matthias
> > 
> > On Thursday, 2012-09-27, Rahul wrote:
> > > I have named it crunch-bytes, but I like crunch-bars as well. J
> > > Pool in your suggestions.
> > > 
> > > regards
> > > Rahul
> > > 
> > > On 26-09-2012 21:36, Matthias Friedrich wrote:
> > > > OK, then let's do it! As soon as we've agreed on a name, of course :)
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Matthias
> > > > 
> > > > On Wednesday, 2012-09-26, Rahul wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I believe every project has a bunch of interesting users which can
> > > > > provide additional food for thought to others. Hadoop provides lots
> > > > > of random opportunities to people and the same should be possible
> > > > > with crunch. I would be delighted to see what people are able to
> > > > > pull off using the existing things. These contributions should be
> > > > > kept in crunch as we are pretty young and at times we will go under
> > > > > various refactorings, keeping them in crunch will keep them up-to
> > > > > date.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And yes, +1 to the idea of keeping dependencies to crunch-core only.
> > > > > 
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > rahul
> > > > > On 26-09-2012 04:32, Josh Wills wrote:
> > > > > > I like the idea of having a place in the project that showcases
the
> > > > > > cool things that you can do with it-- something more advanced
and
> > > > > > broadly applicable than the starter pipelines we have in
> > > > > > crunch-examples, the kind of stuff that you can't easy do using
tools
> > > > > > like Hive and Pig.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I also agree that we don't want to get into dependency creep,
so I'd
> > > > > > be inclined to limit crunch-bytes (crunch-berries? crunch-bars?
> > > > > > crunch-abs?) to just those dependencies that are also in crunch-core.
> > > > > > I think the Bloom Filter stuff meets this criteria.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The project is still young enough that our problem is much more
likely
> > > > > > to be attracting new folks than it is to be getting overwhelmed
with
> > > > > > random contributions, so my inclination is to be welcoming.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Matthias Friedrich <matt@mafr.de
(mailto:matt@mafr.de)> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Rahul,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I think it would be really great to have an ecosystem of
> > > > > > > micro-libraries around Crunch for all kinds of cool stuff
that is
> > > > > > > relevant for smaller audiences, just like your Bloom filters.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > But since I expect most of this stuff to be so extremely
special, it
> > > > > > > would in my opinion make more sense to put this into small,
focused
> > > > > > > and independent projects that can be released separately
from each
> > > > > > > other and don't need to go through Crunch's review process.
It would
> > > > > > > make dependency management easier for users, too, in case
a library
> > > > > > > needs additional dependencies.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > We could maintain a registry of these projects on Crunch's
homepage
> > > > > > > so people can find them easily (I expect most of them would
end up
> > > > > > > at GitHub because it's perfect for this kind of thing).
If a project
> > > > > > > turns out to be interesting for a larger audience, we can
still add it
> > > > > > > to Crunch core.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Matthias
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, 2012-09-25, Rahul wrote:
> > > > > > > > There can be interesting use-cases like BloomFilters
which do not
> > > > > > > > have a place in the current set of Crunch modules.
These functions
> > > > > > > > are kind of utility functions that can be used in
Crunch. We need to
> > > > > > > > create a place where users can share such functions.
In the earlier
> > > > > > > > discussion for BloomFilters we thought of some thing
that is well
> > > > > > > > along the lines of PiggyBank. I had a look at the
module but in
> > > > > > > > Pig's structure the module is branched under contrib
module as there
> > > > > > > > are other modules like peeny for monitering and zebra
for storage.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I have created a module name *crunch-bytes* , for
issue
> > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CRUNCH-75, which
is direct
> > > > > > > > sub-module in crunch-parent. I named it so because
I felt it will
> > > > > > > > providing a space to have all those interesting data
computations
> > > > > > > > that we can not have in core.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Please share your thoughts for the same.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > rahul
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Director of Data Science
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