Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC56E10D2C for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14072 invoked by uid 500); 27 Mar 2014 03:25:41 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 14047 invoked by uid 500); 27 Mar 2014 03:25:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 14000 invoked by uid 99); 27 Mar 2014 03:25:39 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:25:39 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of siriele2x3@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.181 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.181] (HELO mail-qc0-f181.google.com) (209.85.216.181) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:25:34 +0000 Received: by mail-qc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id e9so3611549qcy.26 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:25:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=piJHpyV0j3QbjL1g1mNiT5ZVHR+gbpiqsxKGadmkoNw=; b=JTD57IjaU+fRH8eJJlMmvxcuP/EVHIhaNLFKabDIXkqeiI1jsDHh8j4LhZQUXPPY3f jmIL7Blt4Di4j3c6DE5B9pxRmdyJTZYuY2SkI2iS9q848jQzfnEn8M8vXyZfoJMUgF6h NPn1hIYlX33Ah1weaAncxw6cHbT9SzpnNpw0O7GXQLPiIH2bTbRJnzxLshOHsaKrv6CA lzwIIhJiNkWOiSQebdHm5noX8gKc9+EaiI6jWSTmeLOkfDEMCfgyTKmcdMCWQsHCFesQ DKPfCsuB9HO5Cx+ORuEt+wUObZCYoQdsQDfNm6Bm06a1h47kXimcyUGYjKU5/6c8Uah1 XDrA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.116.193 with SMTP id n1mr94139724qcq.10.1395890713304; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.25.164 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.25.164 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:25:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6A28FEB1-09C3-4BB2-8D87-6BBC98688A5D@couchbase.com> <0E91F9E7-2FA5-41A2-BC9B-CF5AC6603921@couchbase.com> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:25:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bigcouch vs couchbase From: Stanley Iriele To: user@couchdb.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11330b401ca2cc04f58e228b X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --001a11330b401ca2cc04f58e228b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Also... Jens... You said couchbase doesn't have MVCC ? All docs say That it uses couchDB MVCC append only under the good on a single node... Could you elaborate a tad on what you mean by doesn't have MVCC?... Also for the couchDB advocates...I think discussions about this are incredibly helpful for all parties involved.. On Mar 26, 2014 2:58 PM, "Stanley Iriele" wrote: > Thanks again Jens for the reply... Couchbase has documentation on > this...and gobs of marketing... But bigcouch does not... > > In bigcouch...all nodes can handle every request... But let's say a node > cannot reach the nodes that have a key..like node A knows it needs to read > from nodes B and C but cannot reach them.... But has a copy of the data > locally but was given r=2 for consent read... What does bigcouch do? > > Potentially return stale data?.. Throw an error?.... > > I know that bigcouch is based on the dynamo white paper... But so is > Cassandra...and riak and you cab at least find out the answers to these > questions with a little googling. Again I'm eternally grateful for the > responses I'm getting I just wish there more docs....like the couchDB docs > page that even has a CAP theorem chart..(which is freaking awesome).. > On Mar 26, 2014 12:24 PM, "Jens Alfke" wrote: > >> >> On Mar 26, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Stanley Iriele wrote: >> >> > Why would you say that couchbase scales better?... >> >> That's getting way off-topic for this list, but http://couchbase.com has >> a bunch of marketing materials and white papers and such, and we have sales >> engineers you can talk to if you really want to dive into it. But as I >> said, Couchbase Server and BigCouch are very different. >> >> > And does bigcouch ever return conflicts to the user? How is the "which >> write won" problem solved? >> >> AFAIK BigCouch's document/revision/conflict model is identical to >> CouchDBs. MVCC, revision IDs, revision trees, conflicts represented as >> branched trees, conflict resolution by deleting unwanted branches, etc. >> >> --Jens > > --001a11330b401ca2cc04f58e228b--