Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1257910488 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 18:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 68194 invoked by uid 500); 14 Nov 2013 18:32:00 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 67897 invoked by uid 500); 14 Nov 2013 18:32:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 67634 invoked by uid 99); 14 Nov 2013 18:31:58 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 18:31:58 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_REPLY,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of siriele2x3@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.181 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.181] (HELO mail-qc0-f181.google.com) (209.85.216.181) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 18:31:53 +0000 Received: by mail-qc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id l4so345270qcv.40 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:31:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5gw0QT8W0jNi7ouGnQxwqWIBvKN94SN+kg82JgKeobk=; b=YZLvP+5eF96UZIdZTrQJdqImgCPrUdBHrxtdT4BcqByGpqUo7ZT0LqELpLaIy2cVbw VgAn7A5alKQaGfIbPDEX+t5oequ47Nbru5g2pZqGkfLm5Bp5M2cTeMqs8kEErrqR1NYp o4O4s1lULKfTl1G7d1KszhwiOTrlxnSabfKvArDgvf8ZUy0ztZMgenEaYZx87bkX+2OA bv0OlosZjNl/PxxlKE0MbKE70nGWgDYG1Ktkb2oo/XlyfxBdrITaRcnZzxBuW9Df5Z0S xbmr8lQRJehZnIDy2QkC1/4EpTHV27PxP2MP+usQS0p9jzEJbYszAFP/XzF/k4wpBnu0 08fw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.76.10 with SMTP id a10mr4475643qak.9.1384453892757; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:31:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.54.163 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:31:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:31:32 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: show/list From: Stanley Iriele To: user@couchdb.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c305a47c5f2d04eb274a57 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --001a11c305a47c5f2d04eb274a57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "Show lists is easy side HTML" This gives off the impression the this is the purpose of show/list functions and I believe that is patently false. they provide an extra layer of transformation on a document or result of a view. What she said was one particular use case, and a bad one at that, for show/list functions. I use them to create SLA with whatever client is consuming them. I've used lists to do delta compression across a collection of documents without returning them to the server. "To me, SHOW/LIST is ugly and should probably be deprecated." Fillipo @"Any application that uses CouchDB as a pure database doesn't need show and list handlers. They are simply useless" They are not useless. You are either using them wrong or do not understand what they are used for. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Mike Marino wrote: > The quote from the slide is: > > "To me, SHOW/LIST is ugly and should probably be deprecated." > > She was simply expressing her opinion, not the status of show/list. > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Mark Deibert > wrote: > > Yes I know the dictionary definition of deprecate. However, if you're > > deprecating Couch functionality that I'm certain is in use by many > > production applications, you would hope a replacement/alternative or at > > least a workaround is being planned. > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Robert Newson > wrote: > > > >> deprecate does not require or imply a replacement, it's merely > >> "express disapproval of". > >> > >> That said, Joan is wrong to assert that Show/List is deprecated, no > >> such decision has been made by the couchdb dev team, let alone > >> approved. > >> > >> B. > >> > >> > >> On 14 November 2013 17:52, Benoit Chesneau wrote: > >> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Mark Deibert >> >wrote: > >> > > >> >> I haven't watched the Joan T. slides so I'm sorry if this is a dumb > >> >> question but: If Show/List are "deprecated", what are their > >> replacements? > >> >> > >> > > >> > They are not deprecated for now and I don't see any replacement coming > >> yet. > >> > Maybe wohali will tell us what she had in mind. > >> > > >> > - benoit > >> > --001a11c305a47c5f2d04eb274a57--