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Subject: Re: Seeking for professional training help with CouchDB
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When the company you work for needs to use a new technology no one =
knows. If you have experts inside you use them to train the others, when =
you haven't, you pay someone to train your programmers.
When do you need a new technology? When you have a project can't be done =
with the technologies you know, because they don't scale or they are not =
an option anymore. Or when these new technologies let you reach the goal =
faster and with a better result. Think for example at the adoption of a =
framework when you never used one: if you decide to adopt Symfony or =
Ruby on Rails and you don't have expertise, you call an expert to teach, =
not only you, but all your team.
Same reason you go to university: teachers are there to teach you faster =
things you can learn alone, because, presumably, their experience drive =
you in the right direction, focusing your attention on the useful =
things. This not always happen, because there are bad teachers and bad =
trainers, like there are bad programmers, but I think I made a point =
here. :-)

-Filippo

On Nov 13, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Giovanni P wrote:

> ok, reading it again my question may have been a little disrespectful. =
Now
> it is clear for me when someone would need an expert:
> - when you have a team of developers that need to learn CouchDB;
> - when you need very complex data migrations from various relational
> databases;
> - things related.
> To do these things an expert (or a team of them) to do the training or =
data
> modelling is probably a very valuable asset.
> The question that stays unanswered (although now I know there is an
> answer), for me, is when someone would need these services?
>=20
>=20
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Andy Wenk <andy@nms.de> wrote:
>=20
>> I don't want to start a discussion here. Just wanna drop a side note:
>>=20
>> Please don't forget when this book was written and where CouchDB was =
at
>> this time. At least the original version was one of the first written
>> documentation available. To understand the basics about CouchDB, I =
think it
>> is definitely a good choice.
>>=20
>> Writing a good book is extremely hard and very time consuming (I
>> experienced it twice). So even when it sound harsh what Jens said, I =
can
>> imagine, that a lot of people think like that. But also don't forget =
for
>> whom these books are written. Newbies or intermediate users - not =
"expert"
>> users or core developers ;-)
>>=20
>> To come back to the original post, yeah the question was not about a =
book
>> ;-)
>>=20
>> Cheers
>>=20
>>=20
>> On 13 November 2013 16:54, Filippo Fadda =
<filippo.fadda@programmazione.it
>>> wrote:
>>=20
>>> +1
>>>=20
>>> On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:
>>>> (Also, I have to say I=92m unsatisfied with that book. It skips =
around a
>>> lot, is often unclear, and spends a lot of time on examples as =
opposed to
>>> principles. That said, I haven=92t seen any really good books about
>> CouchDB.)
>>>>=20
>>>> =97Jens
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> --
>> Andy Wenk
>> Hamburg - Germany
>> RockIt!
>>=20
>> http://www.couchdb-buch.de
>> http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
>>=20
>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>>=20