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From Giovanni P <fiat...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Seeking for professional training help with CouchDB
Date Tue, 12 Nov 2013 19:49:41 GMT
Of course experience has value. I'll never deny it. The problem was that
the term "expert" states something about "knowing more", not "having more
experience. Ok, these points are blurry and confusing, but that was part of
my question.

Thanks everybody.


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Giovanni P <fiatjaf@gmail.com> wrote:

> I liked the answers now. They're serious as my question was, although
> quite enraged. No problem with you thinking I am an idiot, but don't think
> I'm making fun of you with my question. I get the point now, but still
> don't find it so obvious, maybe because I have never had "a whole team of
> developers", maybe because it's difficult to understand why someone would
> get a whole team of developers to suddenly start working with a new
> database without a clear *purpose *they don't know and pay a serious
> money in "training".
>
> Probably there are cases in which this is a good idea, but my perception
> is that if some company does this it is wasting money, because it could
> just stand with their known database.
>
> Or, in case changing to CouchDB (this applies to any kind of new software)
> is really better than standing, if this is to be implemented within a
> business (with a whole team of developers), it should be because some
> visionary saw some place where the new product could do something very good
> for the company, much better than its current software (the "purpose"). If
> he is capable of being such a visionary and being sure enough about it to
> pay a lot of money for the "experts", he probably is already an expert in
> the new product himself.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Mark Deibert <mark.deibert@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Learning from a real expert in a class will get you trained, up-to-speed
>> and working with a product about a 10 times faster. Googling for blogs and
>> wiki's and reading and fiddling until you figure things out by yourself
>> will take at least weeks, more likely _months_ to learn what you can learn
>> in a one week class with an expert. Do you expect a whole team of
>> developers to waste all that time? How can you ask that question
>> "seriously"?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Robert Newson <rnewson@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > My answer was as serious as the question "what does an "expert" knows
>> > that is so important that can't be learned on
>> > documentation, wikis and blogs?".
>> >
>> > An expert or experienced practitioner is someone who has already done
>> > the above, and more, allowing you to exchange one commodity (money)
>> > for another (working design or code).
>> >
>> > B.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 12 November 2013 18:41, matt j. sorenson <matt@sorensonbros.net>
>> wrote:
>> > > if there were no demand for knowledge from those who've already
>> attained
>> > > it, applied it, refined and honed it, there'd be no market economy
>> for us
>> > > knowledge workers, and we'd all be out of jobs.
>> > >
>> > > /always looking for the secret turbo button
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > *matt j. sorenson*
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Benoit Chesneau <
>> bchesneau@gmail.com
>> > >wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Giovanni P <fiatjaf@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > what does an "expert" knows that is so important that can't be
>> > learned on
>> > >> > documentation, wikis and blogs?
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >> An expert has a real practice.
>> > >>
>> > >> - benoit
>> > >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Simon Metson <simon@cloudant.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > thecouchfirm.com
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > On Friday, 8 November 2013 at 22:33, Naik, Purushottam wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > > Please provide with details on companies/experts who
can
>> provide
>> > with
>> > >> > > professional training with CouchDB development.
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Thanks
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Purushottam G Naik (PG),
>> > >> > > > Senior Director iSeries Software,
>> > >> > > > Bally Technologies,
>> > >> > > > 245 Town Park Drive,
>> > >> > > > 5th Floor, Suite 500,
>> > >> > > > Town Park-Ravine One,
>> > >> > > > Kennesaw, GA 30144.
>> > >> > > > Direct 702-584-8899
>> > >> > > > Cell 404-903-0819
>> > >> > > > Main 770-420-2388
>> > >> > > > Fax 770-420-9650
>> > >> > > > pnaik@ballytech.com<mailto:pnaik@ballytech.com>
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> >
>>
>
>

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