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From Tim Tisdall <tisd...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: CouchDB not reachable (beginner's question)
Date Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:55:39 GMT
Still don't see how ssh'ing in as root is anywhere as bad as having your
CouchDB open to the world with no password...

If you had two machines, one with no password and public access to CouchDB
and another one with someone logged in via SSH as root and someone asked
you to delete the DB on one of those machines, which one would you go after?


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Keith Gable <ziggy@ignition-project.com>wrote:

> wow indeed.
>
> ---
> Keith Gable
> A+, Network+, and Storage+ Certified Professional
> Apple Certified Technical Coordinator
> Mobile Application Developer / Web Developer
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Robert Newson <rnewson@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > wow.
> >
> > On 15 April 2013 15:15, Tim Tisdall <tisdall@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > What's wrong with ssh'ing as root?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Keith Gable <
> > ziggy@ignition-project.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >> But you're SSHing as root, which is probably worse than opening
> CouchDB
> > to
> > >> the world with no password.
> > >>
> > >> ---
> > >> Keith Gable
> > >> A+, Network+, and Storage+ Certified Professional
> > >> Apple Certified Technical Coordinator
> > >> Mobile Application Developer / Web Developer
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Tim Tisdall <tisdall@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Instead of opening CouchDB to the world, I simply access it by
> > >> > port-forwarding through ssh when I connect to the machine.  Like
> this:
> > >> >
> > >> > ssh -L 5984:127.0.0.1:5984 root@mymachine.com
> > >> >
> > >> > Then on my local machine I can simply access
> > >> http://localhost:5984/_utils/and
> > >> > up comes futon.  It depends on your use-case, but this works well
> for
> > me.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Stefan Reich <
> > >> > stefan.reich.maker.of.eye@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hmm... maybe you guys can help me solve the rest of the problem?
> > >> (Access
> > >> > to
> > >> > > couchdb from outside)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > These are the last iptables rules in chain INPUT:;
> > >> > >
> > >> > > MY_REJECT  all  --  anywhere             anywhere
> > >> > > ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere           
tcp
> > >> dpt:5984
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Is that not what it should be...? Says "anywhere"... everywhere.
> > Heh.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Cheers,
> > >> > > Stefan
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Stefan Reich <
> > >> > > stefan.reich.maker.of.eye@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > OK, thanks for all the answers, folks. It was indeed iptables
> that
> > >> > > blocked
> > >> > > > the port. This stuff should be designed (much) better in
> operating
> > >> > > systems.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Actually it's a project of mine to make that better (LuaOS
and
> its
> > >> > > > follow-ups).
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I got iptables to allow access locally now. Weirdly, it
still
> > doesn't
> > >> > > work
> > >> > > > over the Internet. And no, the server is not behind a
> firewall...
> > :)
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > Stefan
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Andrey Kuprianov <
> > >> > > > andrey.kouprianov@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> See if your local.ini bind_address is set to 0.0.0.0
so that
> you
> > can
> > >> > > >> access
> > >> > > >> it locally and remotely.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:54 AM, Stanley Iriele <
> > >> siriele2x3@gmail.com
> > >> > > >> >wrote:
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > A simple cat of etc/hosts... Should let you know!...
And
> maybe
> > >> > > nsswitch
> > >> > > >> > just to be sure
> > >> > > >> > On Apr 10, 2013 11:22 AM, "Robert Newson" <
> rnewson@apache.org>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > > Are you sure localhost == 127.0.0.1 on your
machine?
> > >> debian/ubuntu
> > >> > > are
> > >> > > >> > > notorious for changing that convention.
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > On 10 April 2013 14:20, Stanley Iriele <
> siriele2x3@gmail.com
> > >
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >> > > > Why are you telneting to it?...try curling
it and see
> > whatviy
> > >> > > >> responds
> > >> > > >> > > with
> > >> > > >> > > > On Apr 10, 2013 10:47 AM, "Stefan Reich"
<
> > >> > > >> > > > stefan.reich.maker.of.eye@googlemail.com>
wrote:
> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> > > >> Oops, bad copy&paste - here's
the actual process info:
> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> root@pussy-riot-germany:~/luastuff#
ps -aef|grep 7651
> > >> > > >> > > >> couchdb   7651  7650  0 19:44 pts/0
   00:00:00
> > >> > > >> > > >> /usr/lib/erlang/erts-5.8/bin/beam.smp
-Bd -K true --
> -root
> > >> > > >> > > /usr/lib/erlang
> > >> > > >> > > >> -progname erl -- -home /var/lib/couchdb
-- -noshell
> > -noinput
> > >> > > -sasl
> > >> > > >> > > >> errlog_type error -couch_ini /etc/couchdb/default.ini
> > >> > > >> > > >> /etc/couchdb/local.ini /etc/couchdb/default.ini
> > >> > > >> /etc/couchdb/local.ini
> > >> > > >> > > -s
> > >> > > >> > > >> couch -pidfile /var/run/couchdb/couchdb.pid
-heart
> > >> > > >> > > >> couchdb   7682  7651  0 19:44 ? 
      00:00:00 heart
> -pid
> > >> 7651
> > >> > > >> -ht 11
> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> Cheers,
> > >> > > >> > > >> Stefan
> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:46 PM,
Stefan Reich <
> > >> > > >> > > >> stefan.reich.maker.of.eye@googlemail.com>
wrote:
> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> > Hi there!
> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > > >> > I'd like to start using CouchDB
for my projects.
> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > > >> > This is on a Linux host. CouchDB
installed from
> standard
> > >> > Debian
> > >> > > >> > > package,
> > >> > > >> > > >> > no settings altered. But it
doesn't start properly:
> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > > >> > root@pussy-riot-germany:~/luastuff#
uname -a
> > >> > > >> > > >> > Linux pussy-riot-germany 2.6.32-042stab068.8
#1 SMP
> Fri
> > >> Dec 7
> > >> > > >> > 17:06:14
> > >> > > >> > > >> MSK
> > >> > > >> > > >> > 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
> > >> > > >> > > >> > root@pussy-riot-germany:~/luastuff#
> /etc/init.d/couchdb
> > >> > start
> > >> > > >> > > >> > Starting database server: couchdb.
> > >> > > >> > > >> > root@pussy-riot-germany:~/luastuff#
> /etc/init.d/couchdb
> > >> > status
> > >> > > >> > > >> > Apache CouchDB is running as
process 7651, time to
> > relax.
> > >> > > >> > > >> > root@pussy-riot-germany:~/luastuff#
telnet localhost
> > 5984
> > >> > > >> > > >> > Trying ::1...
> > >> > > >> > > >> > Trying 127.0.0.1...
> > >> > > >> > > >> > telnet: Unable to connect to
remote host: Connection
> > >> refused
> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > > >> > Connection refused?
> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > > >> > Here's the process info:
> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > > >> > root@pussy-riot-germany:~/luastuff#
uname -a
> > >> > > >> > > >> > Linux pussy-riot-germany 2.6.32-042stab068.8
#1 SMP
> Fri
> > >> Dec 7
> > >> > > >> > 17:06:14
> > >> > > >> > > >> MSK
> > >> > > >> > > >> > 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
> > >> > > >> > > >> > root@pussy-riot-germany:~/luastuff#
> /etc/init.d/couchdb
> > >> > start
> > >> > > >> > > >> > Starting database server: couchdb.
> > >> > > >> > > >> > root@pussy-riot-germany:~/luastuff#
> /etc/init.d/couchdb
> > >> > status
> > >> > > >> > > >> > Apache CouchDB is running as
process 7651, time to
> > relax.
> > >> > > >> > > >> > root@pussy-riot-germany:~/luastuff#
telnet localhost
> > 5984
> > >> > > >> > > >> > Trying ::1...
> > >> > > >> > > >> > Trying 127.0.0.1...
> > >> > > >> > > >> > telnet: Unable to connect to
remote host: Connection
> > >> refused
> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > > >> > Please help, dear experts...
:)
> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > > >> > Cheers,
> > >> > > >> > > >> > Stefan
> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
>

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