From user-return-23029-apmail-couchdb-user-archive=couchdb.apache.org@couchdb.apache.org Mon Dec 10 19:51:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32A1DDCAF for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 56469 invoked by uid 500); 10 Dec 2012 19:51:10 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 56432 invoked by uid 500); 10 Dec 2012 19:51:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 56424 invoked by uid 99); 10 Dec 2012 19:51:10 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:51:10 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [128.18.84.132] (HELO brightmail-internal3.sri.com) (128.18.84.132) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:51:01 +0000 X-AuditID: 80125484-b7fd06d000004640-52-50c63d109a9c Received: from exchange-hub01.SRI.COM (exchange-hub01.SRI.COM [128.18.23.153]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by brightmail-internal3.sri.com (SRI Internal SMTP Gateway) with SMTP id 32.7B.17984.01D36C05; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:50:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXCHANGE-DB08.SRI.COM ([fe80::a11e:7c21:6886:9a20]) by exchange-hub01.SRI.COM ([2002:8012:1799::8012:1799]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:50:38 -0800 From: Jim Klo To: "" Subject: Re: g+ community Thread-Topic: g+ community Thread-Index: AQHN1vjnneBmOUqSc0SNPQf4r7sEe5gS4v4AgAAGcYCAAAXSgIAACC8A Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:50:37 +0000 Message-ID: <09D8CDF8-C850-43B6-8DD0-47F46D45A0D2@sri.com> References: <1E58B7CD-E8B2-474D-AE65-E96A0FEE5F31@sri.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.12.16.226] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BDD0209F-A557-4C47-8901-6BF2B5CF6550"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrEIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsXSICQ+U1fQ9liAwd/DHBade/ayOTB6bPxw nDGAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoErY+75XSwFyxwrJr74wtTAeN+mi5GDQ0LAROLFLP0uRk4gU0zi wr31bF2MXBxCAjuZJFa9m8oC4exmlDj1dj8rSBWbgLzE4e0PmEFsEQFLiVsLPrKA2MICkhL/ tt6GiktJLFj2mA3CdpPoe/ALLM4ioCqx4u0ssHpeASuJZ9ffMEMs6GeS2HXtN1gRp0CgxMy1 J8FsRqCTvp9awwRiMwuIS9x6Mp8J4lQRiYcXT7NB2KISLx//Y4WwFSXWNf1lh6ifwiixdkIw xDJBiZMzn7BMYBSZhWTULCRls5CUQcSTJN41PoSytSWWLXzNDGEbSDztfMWKKa4v8ebdHKiZ phKvj35khLCtJWb8OsgGYStKTOl+yL6AkXsVo0xSUWZ6RkluYmaOLiw+jfWKizL1kvNzNzGC YzakZQfjil2GhxgFOBiVeHgtT6sECLEmlhVX5h5ilOBgVhLhjZA4FiDEm5JYWZValB9fVJqT WnyIUZqDRUmcN8yY319IID2xJDU7NbUgtQgmy8TBKdXAGFaVpcUSsz/Hq2nL/kB/QYXd3aYb rt66eDXv0Hkex2vChkdLrnbk7hNYJvDt1jPfnI9Lm6RWyM6Q59Hw5NJSXHtrgnj83zquX498 vGcveFfnd1lWprFPZUbu3llp9eu1GLmqr6aHhaQtiFtwfVloWPn5qvJHnNxH7O/VOF3N3yTz Y8H04+f/KrEUZyQaajEXFScCAACPN3/VAgAA X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail=_BDD0209F-A557-4C47-8901-6BF2B5CF6550 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_406F8CCE-B5F4-4CA7-B714-742962B9361D" --Apple-Mail=_406F8CCE-B5F4-4CA7-B714-742962B9361D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 >> Google Groups is also somewhat painful to search >=20 > I have no trouble searching in the google groups app. What problems > have you had? =46rom my experience=85 on about a dozen groups including several I = moderate=85 the problem is searching through history.. It's fine if all = you want is keyword search, it does that well... however if you want to = do faceted search (filtering by subject, thread, user, time span, etc=85) = google groups makes it hard to do those things IMHO, hence why I have = all my google groups also indexed via Markmail.=20 In the end I don't really know what moving to Groups would gain other = than integration into a web UI=85. with the exception of a thread view = and inline posting=85 you can get *most* of that functionality via = Google Reader right now by subscribing to the existing feed: = http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-user/?format=3Datom Just my 2=A2. - Jim= --Apple-Mail=_406F8CCE-B5F4-4CA7-B714-742962B9361D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
Google = Groups is also somewhat painful to search

I have no = trouble searching in the google groups app.  What problems
have = you had?
=46rom my experience=85 on about a = dozen groups including several I moderate=85 the problem is searching = through history..  It's fine if all you want is keyword search, it = does that well...  however if you want to do faceted search = (filtering by subject, thread, user, time span, etc=85) google groups = makes it hard to do those things IMHO, hence why I have all my google = groups also indexed via Markmail. 

In the = end I don't really know what moving to Groups would gain other than = integration into a web UI=85. with the exception of a thread view and = inline posting=85 you can get *most* of that functionality via Google = Reader right now by subscribing to the existing feed:  http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-user/?format=3Datom


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