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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:54:48 -0600
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Subject: Re: A new Garden
From: Ryan Ramage <ryan.ramage@gmail.com>
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Btw, if anyone wants to get (back) into couchapps, I have a super easy
template to fork and tryout:

https://github.com/garden20/baseline-garden-app


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Ryan Ramage <ryan.ramage@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Michiel de Jong <michiel@unhosted.org> wrote:
>> many thanks for doing this!
>
> Thanks for the great feedback and really walking through it. I had
> most of it done for a while, just needed to really work hard to polish
> it up a bit more.
>
>>
>> I really like how install lets you choose "garden market" but also "or
>> paste a URL", easily usable.
>>
>> One question about pasting a URL though: it wasn't clear to me how i
>> can for instance install http://www.theinfinitemaze.com/ - should i
>> obtain some sort of app manifest URL from the independent app
>> publisher to paste in there?
>>
>
> Currently the only url that work in that field is a link to an app in
> _any_ garden market. Something that looks like:
>
> http://garden20.com/market/details/bookmarks
>
> We just wanted to show a way that you are not forced to use one
> market. Some work should be done to make that more clear. That being
> said
> we could probably sniff the url provided a little more, and if it is a
> regular couchapp provided a way to replicate it over to your garden. I
> will have to think about that.
>
>
>> I even think the "do you trust this app?" page can be toned down, when
>> i saw it i assumed that all apps would be sharing one data space.
>> Given that this is not the case, all an app could do is DoS you,
>> right? I mean, i think you could skip this "are you sure?" screen
>> even.
>
> It needs to be there in some form. I can send you a link like this:
> http://bit.ly/Qglbda To try and fool you. Just some safety measures.
>
>>
>> I'll think about if there is a way to port our existing remoteStorage
>> apps to CouchApp. They all use remoteStorage.js, so if we port that,
>> we would port all future apps on our platform automatically to your
>> platform. The main difference is the separation between data of
>> different apps, i think.
>
> I can see remote storage as a nice fit if people build hosted gardens
> from the smaller apps, and remoteStorage lets them save data to/from
> them. Also pouchdb is a great fit for this.
>
>>
>> ps, everybody else can stop trying to squat 'unwalled.garden20.com' as
>> a username, i already got it. :)
>>
>
> it truly is trying to be an unwalled garden. Good name :)