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From Nathan Vander Wilt <>
Subject Re: A new Garden
Date Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:47:41 GMT
Neat idea. I've been working (off and on) on a number of Couchapps that might be a great fit.
They're simple "Python couchapp" bundles rather than Kanso, especially since many of them
were started a while ago:

- photo library:
- location logging: (not much web interface besides a summary
viewer, and used by ShutterStem's geotagging)
- simple Markdown notebook:
- simple "vectors-on-map" notebook:

All of these are designed to run in a shared database setting (e.g. I could theoretically
store all my photos and geodata and text notes in a single database) and so might be a great
fit for Garden20 [why twenty?] assuming your app approval process is sympathetic to beta (and
in some cases, pre-alpha) software ;-)

Glad you're keeping the CouchApp dream alive. I've got a dream to someday figure out a sort
of couchOS server platform where, say, gently sandboxed node.js apps can track a whole family/small
office's data in CouchDB, with a bit of OAuth, BrowserID and Web Intents thrown in for good
measure. Apps like ShutterStem and some media center stuff lower down on my list could benefit
from being able to run OS-level processes outside of _view/_show/_list — but I think simply
having Garden to make the basic CouchApp stuff more approachable to more people is a great
step forward.

Would be happy to keep chatting more about CouchApp architectures (and markets!) on or off-list
as might be appropriate.


On Sep 12, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Ryan Ramage wrote:

> Hey relaxers, you may remember the original garden that jchris did.
> Well, I have taken that idea and run with it.
> Checkout
> The idea is really to provide an open platform for both developers and
> end users, all firmly rooted in couchdb.
> For users, it could not be simpler to install an app anywhere. With a
> few steps a user could be running your app in the cloud with no
> installation headaches.
> They will be able to choose downloads for most platforms, as well as
> the option of a private couch provided by IrisCouch. It is all
> hopefully very frictionless.
> For developers it solves many distribution problems. Its very easy to
> make new apps using the existing couch tool-chains. You can even
> retrofit existing couchapps
> quickly an put them in the market. Also, the garden provides a very
> good way to push and manage updates. Another wall hit by developers is
> the private data scenario.
> You could even have them install the app, work with private data
> locally (or in a private cloud) and setup a sync back to a central
> place.
> I hope the community will pitch in and create or retrofit some amazing
> apps. Here are some ideas:
> - Apps that make it easy to quickly get a public site going. Forum
> apps, issue trackers, etc
> - Collaboration apps that will work together.
> - Personal apps that can sync to a private hosted space, and between a
> users devices.
> Thanks, and please provide me with any feedback, ideas, bugs or whatever!
> Ryan

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