Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 83314 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2010 18:21:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2010 18:21:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 51740 invoked by uid 500); 16 Sep 2010 18:21:17 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 51682 invoked by uid 500); 16 Sep 2010 18:21:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 51672 invoked by uid 99); 16 Sep 2010 18:21:17 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:21:17 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of zachary.zolton@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.42 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.42] (HELO mail-ww0-f42.google.com) (74.125.82.42) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:21:13 +0000 Received: by wwb31 with SMTP id 31so411154wwb.5 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:20:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8sGG5crPMpjX9KYLANnfz+VqtxlvsX57G01S9ZD57II=; b=s+9ebKzyuUOoaNiIPxgbmFmYZ89zaP+eUKCoUWMkj62/bctGVGEthtfyCEOsUwLaBe 1VTywZ2EY9vrI1yaTCa9UNHaqi2NN2BhuQPWMb4EsvaubvMptw2oOvlPAsKV6iSGDL92 GW5iqsx+wECcCh7s5DhFRuB1KgUJU8RaLXECA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xw+khbv2il24FpOk2pT5GbWa4Nm+B1mY3uqFSCeoND8jWMMHbVzflzFxak/kh1B+mw ua8kqP/W1EE6+TXqsqjUAtgYePkwbWg2htfIKLKPfgJ1n+kGMIQyZz+YepOHSkl1Nwye ELUup5ZGyghtyfnDW3/bbOPS940GEboMtPN34= Received: by 10.216.38.71 with SMTP id z49mr7076520wea.76.1284661251293; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:20:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.180.6 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:20:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <682FA959-CB40-4177-B5A4-507D8C47168F@googlemail.com> From: Zachary Zolton Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:20:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: About futon admin console To: user@couchdb.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks! Makes sense given Evently's limitations. On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Mikeal Rogers wr= ote: > Two reasons. The first is that I think it will complicate the code base e= ven > more than it is now. The less abstractions we have the easier it will be = for > new people to read the code and see how the CouchDB API workss. > > The second reason is that it's not a very good fit. Futon can't actually = be > a couchapp because it has to relate to multiple databases and we're doing > more and more to try and limit the access a couchapp has to databases oth= er > than it's own and special databases like _users, _replicator, etc. > > Evently also does a ton of stuff that scopes it's objects to the design d= oc > and database it's served under. Futon doesn't have a ddoc, it's just a bu= nch > of html and javascript served our of _utils as static files. > > The new futon is just sammy.js to handler url -> function routing and the= n a > lot of raw jQuery and $.ajax calls. The idea is to keep it fast and "clos= e > to the metal" and try to parallelize as many things as we can so that you > can interact with any page while it's still doing queries to fill in more > content. > > You can check it out here: > > http://github.com/mikeal/couchdb/tree/sammy > > -Mikeal > > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Zachary Zolton > wrote: > >> @Mikeal just curious as to why you don't want to use Evently in your >> Futon re-implementation. >> =97Zach >> >> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Mikeal Rogers >> wrote: >> > new futon won't use evently. >> > >> > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Tyler Gillies >> wrote: >> > >> >> Mikael said he was rewriting it at couchcamp >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Sebastian Cohnen < >> >> sebastiancohnen@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > AFAIK Futon currently does not use evently >> >> > >> >> > On 16.09.2010, at 11:03, sleepy wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > Is futon admin console suppose to be evently? >> >> > > I post a record to CouchDB but doesn't seen it appear automatical= ly >> in >> >> > > futon, is that normal? >> >> > > >> >> > > sleepnova >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://www.readwriteweb.com/about#tyler >> >> >> >> Ask me anything ! >> >> >> > >> >