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From J Chris Anderson <jch...@apache.org>
Subject Re: let me introduce myself .. Paul G
Date Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:11:44 GMT

On Aug 21, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Kenneth Tyler wrote:

> "It can be a bit of a challenge for the more experienced among us to help
> people like you, because not only are we teaching you CouchDB, we're
> teaching you how to program as well. thanks for reminding us of that."
> 
> this is one way to think about it. if you think that the potential users of
> couchdb will be more or less the set of people that might be potential users
> of something like ruby on rails.
> It seems to me that such an approach, while generous and helpful, will
> really put a ceiling on the growth of couchdb... it has the potential to
> replace things like ms access and filemaker... but only if ways are
> developed that let people approach it and work with it who, while they are
> skilled users, and can create complex aps, are not really "programmers".
> 
> i think it would be possible to present couchdb in a way that would make it
> accessible to this much larger group of people... but there is not much
> evidence of such resources yet
> 

yes. I would love to see things like GUI app builders, form builders, etc. Hopefully these
aren't too long in coming!

Chris

> ken tyler
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:24 PM, J Chris Anderson <jchris@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Aug 21, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 21 Aug 2010, at 08:47, Paul Gydos wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Anyway happy couching y'all.  I get the feeling eventually this document
>>>> database platform will be more accessible and those funny words you all
>>>> decided to attach to your marketing won't seem so ironic to the REST of
>> us.
>>> 
>>> Welcome, Paul. :)
>>> 
>>> This is one of the best emails I've seen on the list all year!
>> 
>> +1 you are exactly the person we're hoping to reach. however, since you are
>> among the first to walk this path, you'll have to be a trailblazer for those
>> who come later.
>> 
>> regarding the JavaScript and REST tech jargon, you oughta see what the less
>> relaxing toolkits out there sound like when they talk shop. :)
>> 
>> thanks so much for introducing yourself to us. We'll do our best to help
>> you over the stumbling blocks. It can be a bit of a challenge for the more
>> experienced among us to help people like you, because not only are we
>> teaching you CouchDB, we're teaching you how to program as well. thanks for
>> reminding us of that.
>> 
>> in the long run, we hope to see tools that mean you can get basic tasks
>> done without programming. who knows what the long run is... Damien started
>> this project in 2005 and 5 years later we are finally at 1.0, so let me
>> assure you that we'll keep pushing forward and someday (hopefully sooner
>> than 5 years from now) we'll have tools and documentation that can help a
>> non-programmer have fun storing and retrieving the data that they care
>> about. Until then, hang on to your hat!
>> 
>> Welcome,
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>>> 
>>> If we manage to keep you interested in the project via the mailing list,
>> I'd love to see some write-ups of your experience once you're feeling more
>> confident with the software. It could be really handy for other new users.
>> Most of the existing documentation has been written by experienced
>> developers, and I agree that it would be fantastic to address the balance a
>> little bit.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> N
>> 
>> 


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