Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 60394 invoked from network); 21 May 2009 11:30:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 21 May 2009 11:30:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 4695 invoked by uid 500); 21 May 2009 11:31:04 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 4618 invoked by uid 500); 21 May 2009 11:31:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 4608 invoked by uid 99); 21 May 2009 11:31:04 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 21 May 2009 11:31:04 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of paul.joseph.davis@gmail.com designates 74.125.44.29 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.44.29] (HELO yx-out-2324.google.com) (74.125.44.29) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 21 May 2009 11:30:52 +0000 Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so521294yxm.5 for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 04:30:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IcMsJFxkOuoA3cV3R+o5TPr/GCdKStvIaX1mQiFHTHo=; b=l8qpWDQlCrNPGZAMKvS75zOfrRrxUjo1OKqpezQ+3rD92ZKSVnNrGwus+K5Ji95mPr BFSIJlufkXErDUyv58DtfF02+kMIXR5emZMljuATy23xs9fFjJ1cnAHCIC6knvihgtk2 noSTDy6pRkD5m2FgnRZCF3OYbMNwnVlQk4OGI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wpi8+zgxj927LQmS5SdmY3C8hpO2Mgl56IntNGSh37Gm5Q8jFRbPdm1kRRi0uAV2ln Cz1eYj9moF1uQ4Asb703mQmL5cWC85p3BIUH7yLKPGvbQGEEHpY44XyujTY4NUJdB0RQ qbpmbk6D/LBiu7wgbMzS2OOYDJZqy6XnNJGdY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.154.17 with SMTP id b17mr4846867ane.45.1242905431096; Thu, 21 May 2009 04:30:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1B75DD93-C2D3-442D-A10E-6926910F4255@apache.org> References: <1B75DD93-C2D3-442D-A10E-6926910F4255@apache.org> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:30:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I'd like a dish of JavaScript Awesome, please! From: Paul Davis To: user@couchdb.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Jan Lehnardt wrote: > > On 21 May 2009, at 05:07, Chris Anderson wrote: > >> I'm adding 2 more internets to the pool, so we're up to I think 14 now. >> >> Bespin on Couch! >> >> +1 if it speaks CouchApp. > > I'll throw in a 2x multiplier if it is a CouchApp. > My head assplodes at the possibility of the bespin couchapp editor editing itself. > Cheers > Jan > -- > > >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Chris Anderson wrot= e: >>> >>> There's no reason the license would have to be compatible. CouchDB >>> application code can be distributed under any license. >>> >>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Paul Davis >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Benoit, >>>> >>>> Buzzkill. >>>> >>>> http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html >>>> >>>> Looks like a gray area. I wonder if a gzipped version that's >>>> decompressed on the fly is considered binary compatible. Or minified >>>> JS. Didn't I see a post by RMS that minified JS constitutes binary-ish >>>> distribution? >>>> >>>> Quoting RMS: >>>> >>>> The source code of a program is the preferred form for modifying it; >>>> the compacted code is not source code, and the real source code of >>>> this program is not available to the user. [1] >>>> >>>> So, all we need to do is minify it and we're good (cause no one argues >>>> with the RMS). >>>> >>>> Paul Davis >>>> >>>> [1] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Benoit Chesneau >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> 2009/5/21 Paul Davis : >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey, >>>>>> >>>>>> Mikeal on IRC just pointed out that Bespin isn't nearly as hard to >>>>>> load as I had assumed [1]. Surely there's a JavaScript coder in the >>>>>> user base that feels compelled to try their hand at integrating the >>>>>> two for an awesomeness multiplier of at least 12. Also, I'm sure I >>>>>> (and hundreds of others) would buy that person a beer at the next pu= b >>>>>> meetup. Just saying, if you want groupies, this is a >>>>>> get-groupies-quick scheme that'll treat you right. >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] http://mozilla.hskupin.info/bespin/editor.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Paul Davis >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> is the license compatible with apache ? dojo is ok but bespin is unde= r >>>>> mozilla license I guess. Anyway only the editor or a design/couchapp >>>>> editor ? ;) >>>>> >>>>> - beno=EEt >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Chris Anderson >>> http://jchrisa.net >>> http://couch.io >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Chris Anderson >> http://jchrisa.net >> http://couch.io >> > >