Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 55544 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2009 22:40:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 4 Jan 2009 22:40:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 17987 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jan 2009 22:40:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 17944 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jan 2009 22:40:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 17933 invoked by uid 99); 4 Jan 2009 22:40:57 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 14:40:56 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of webjogger@gmail.com designates 209.85.198.228 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.198.228] (HELO rv-out-0506.google.com) (209.85.198.228) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:40:47 +0000 Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id g37so6750731rvb.35 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 14:40:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=efwXPRLMB3Bwgy8guOx+fe585ifNz7C6WfqPvKA7GJY=; b=mESZc8x8tES6ygzSazYd0R83a3umgBqqNSkWNWF4995hx9RvTQVkhTbOMLgzX1lBGg OCcSSr+Z0AR+fk2GZH2gtLhkMyFIr51bVwDmx1e/iw3aYiLrFW0IIV9cl5tk4DfTfbD5 mW3YD6X25K5w2V6We+hI25Hema2VwaqEXMv/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=jsSEqQeYgLqbf1bQxq4wDsDgWTURt9hkpwYuN39+zENPt5ttSN0Ik+N2Ge9wKDTqS7 HWQ6sfakXwEeQGYi/1pFfruoQmZY0CoilbvLDIdkd4DKBQFAm2PlsBeqMLoO6+5UOc0l hMAovZH8K+GWisqPL84xzwZ+Uc9TRYoBwYBTc= Received: by 10.141.162.16 with SMTP id p16mr10019358rvo.280.1231108826201; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 14:40:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.165.13 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 14:40:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4c69d7170901041440x3341a071w3e695f160d94a8d7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 14:40:26 -0800 From: "paul jobs" To: user@couchdb.apache.org Subject: Re: Ten(14) Reasons why Couchdb is better than Mysql In-Reply-To: <49608AED.8070709@theopenlearningcentre.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_148720_4420738.1231108826186" References: <4c69d7170901031256o26fc6ab2q95b141a97c48b17a@mail.gmail.com> <30d0cf2c0901031300j3f6b6a26g74b1a6b532b2a59@mail.gmail.com> <6b6419750901031325n4c51c278rbab46056223ee5a9@mail.gmail.com> <20090104020333.GG22715@tumbolia.org> <792CB27E-51C7-40AE-8180-55116A694D4C@pobox.com> <49608AED.8070709@theopenlearningcentre.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_148720_4420738.1231108826186 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline well said alan, it is way each to explian and understand document and associated views On 1/4/09, Alan Bell wrote: > > same problem for years explaining what Lotus Notes is. The odd thing is > that to a lay person it is way easier to understand the concept of a > document and a bunch of views than it is to understand tables, relations, > left inner joins, compound keys, fourth normal form etc. > > Alan. > > > Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > >> that's probably right. We have a similar problem with MongoDB - once you >> have to start explaining the fundamental differences, the battle is lost. >> They are just too different from RDBMS. >> >> geir >> >> On Jan 3, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Noah Slater wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 04:25:14PM -0500, Patrick Aljord wrote: >>> >>>> There is nothing wrong in comparing two databases, many users don't >>>> really >>>> care about the internals and just want to know which one is the best for >>>> most >>>> jobs. I personally think couchdb is good for most apps that need a good >>>> db :) >>>> >>> >>> Firstly, thanks for the write up Paul. >>> >>> However, after looking at the feedback from the CouchDB book and >>> monitoring the >>> community response to CouchDB I am starting to feel that any kind of >>> comparison >>> to RDBMS is a harmful one, unless done very, very carefully. >>> >>> -- >>> Noah Slater, http://tumbolia.org/nslater >>> >> >> > ------=_Part_148720_4420738.1231108826186--