Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 98171 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2009 13:33:36 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Jan 2009 13:33:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 59817 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jan 2009 13:33:34 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 59779 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jan 2009 13:33:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 59768 invoked by uid 99); 2 Jan 2009 13:33:34 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 05:33:34 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [80.68.94.123] (HELO tumbolia.org) (80.68.94.123) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:33:25 +0000 Received: from nslater by tumbolia.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LIk9B-0006X7-1e for user@couchdb.apache.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:33:05 +0000 Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:33:05 +0000 From: Noah Slater To: user@couchdb.apache.org Subject: Re: Decision making process (Re: Changing rev to _rev in view results (Was: Re: newbie question #1)) Message-ID: <20090102133304.GD20892@tumbolia.org> References: <34FCDB16-6D06-4401-BCD8-0B053E2E935E@gmail.com> <48250456-2512-46BD-85E1-464457DBC995@pobox.com> <20090102034756.GJ2520@tumbolia.org> <62D1E488-D052-4389-B61C-3FBD0D24F4AC@gmail.com> <6F9AE5BB-39A3-40D7-8072-A4A4E0D85F4D@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Noah: Awesome User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 11:19:18PM +1030, Antony Blakey wrote: > That would confirm my presumption that it's probably a waste of time pushing > something that Damien's firmly against, as opposed to expecting to vote on it. I'm not too sure this is a wise approach. Chris is correct in that we've opted for following consensus in the past, but that doesn't mean that whatever Damien says we all agree with. There's still the issue of the JSON newline which has the committers split right down the middle! I see that this issue can take one of three possible routes: * the PMC decide that consensus is to reject the proposal * the PMC decide that opinion is spit and hold an ASF style vote * the PMC decide that consensus is to accept the proposal The PMC comprises me, Chris, Chris, Jan, and Damien. It's worth noting that we may never make a decision, or the decision might take a long time. Looking back at the newline proposal, we never decided consensus was to reject it outright, but we never resolved it the other way either. One of us could move to call a vote, but we all feel its better to wait for consensus. -- Noah Slater, http://tumbolia.org/nslater