Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC8FF106C0 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 08:25:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13118 invoked by uid 500); 12 Aug 2013 08:25:38 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 13000 invoked by uid 500); 12 Aug 2013 08:25:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 12992 invoked by uid 99); 12 Aug 2013 08:25:35 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 08:25:35 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of jason.h.smith@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.42 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.219.42] (HELO mail-oa0-f42.google.com) (209.85.219.42) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 08:25:29 +0000 Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id i18so9399220oag.15 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 01:25:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=baEqUFTAIk79BYIzN0JIcJ5vQMbtIkZSwkfFlQAco84=; b=S1qXnoqiUi15Svh/tNz8/DJh15yVrhL9WQ7JjNYEHTa9AGBmCPdlRfBPdvKIkpGUNI ouQorcjRV0B+bY6TiX6RBeGeTEpi+YAuniNb3lqmux/NQaRO+rlNaC37T+c6qeQWUNE/ kbDj5UaPOHS0Jpm08BUDEeKRNZw3pyHJsVUO9X1CO/VNLUROxFCEIUiPQXeZ2kKq4o1P Q55EKzvnROHbJpF0HEbowRzoq7IacyvVdpakBCyRxhnO3V7Y29VlzSrX6I0+2Pghxh/l ytctj22u0bcFO9nxrSOBxdYOler9PKyF/jxsYsmU35skgB4eEavKne1IfqLo+Fii3IW6 J8gA== X-Received: by 10.60.60.228 with SMTP id k4mr9853583oer.84.1376295908725; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 01:25:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: jason.h.smith@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.103.133 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 01:24:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jason Smith Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 15:24:48 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qz6qklktMFBIg-jrmU4nOtF0yDg Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01538c5abedc0d04e3bbdcef X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --089e01538c5abedc0d04e3bbdcef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 FWIW I avoid the wiki because of the pain and slowness. Speed is a feature, and the wiki is slow. It is slow to execute, but also it is slow to sign in (every time I sign in, it begins with a "forgot password" step). And it is slow to join. New editors must email asking for permission. Often, when I talk though an idea on dev@, the next step is to write up a simple plan. I wish I could do that on the wiki but I hadn't even considered it. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Robert Newson wrote: > "None of that presupposes a tool migration." > > Agreed (of course), but it doesn't preclude it either. > > I'd use the switch as a chance to clean up the wiki, importing only > what's good and true. > > B. > > > > On 12 August 2013 08:32, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > > On 12 August 2013 04:14, Noah Slater wrote: > >> I am still interested in moving to Confluence, though perhaps it's less > >> pressing. So if others could weight in, that'd still be cool. > > > > This was discussed previously[1] in May. I assume that moinmoin > > slowness atm is another round of spam attacks, this is reported on a > > couple of other projects I use too. > > > > Nota Bene, IMHO the most important part is to review each/every page > > and migrate content to .rst docs, or clean/dump as required. None of > > that presupposes a tool migration. > > > > A+ > > Dave > > > > [1]: > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-dev/201305.mbox/%3CCAPkS=XN_uT26yyDzg62Jm1+KoFYwMeLnsoySFb7NE1J+V7r-0A@mail.gmail.com%3E > --089e01538c5abedc0d04e3bbdcef--