Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 19CE41071B for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 08:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 45323 invoked by uid 500); 12 Aug 2013 08:46:12 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 44935 invoked by uid 500); 12 Aug 2013 08:46:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 44918 invoked by uid 99); 12 Aug 2013 08:46:09 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 08:46:09 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of jason.h.smith@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.219.53] (HELO mail-oa0-f53.google.com) (209.85.219.53) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 08:46:02 +0000 Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id k18so4586084oag.40 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 01:45:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=jfK3Syl9xAtAHyjnIGXGXXyy4JdFG8hKzgVXMDFZRi4=; b=yP7t22p7E6V+SK2aZ1XWt3TQb+2Yr2PCXWzZ3m+iGeZeTAz2/LtGXopTerhJXrnydq PohOBNP42Kk//18EwudpyGOB1lsFC6UaEB//Rzewuht3BupinLLyzPtF0WLC4yHJ0Er3 tqdIn2c+PGSEZCf4yaT5nJ1kqRCOHpMwGUjYJd3I/5IStdJsc4VhhC3TLQ6jdiT5vPDI 9yTXFjrTfdv26VNA1k06o+ZSzE4foSB+2jR0uZUuWvA+zwDbm4VhR5TYaOOWIdWgkxQQ LBPaq2mhbrl3WkO9LJkC+OLBjI+du9a/220/dGFr2kJLA1bywJ4fx8Xfj3nlepDnORLw bgFg== X-Received: by 10.182.225.134 with SMTP id rk6mr3798902obc.40.1376297141929; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 01:45:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.103.133 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 01:45:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jason Smith Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 15:45:21 +0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2f800400b2004e3bc2686 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --001a11c2f800400b2004e3bc2686 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I would also prefer that the wiki run on free software; however if we had a decent import/export feature I would be satisfied. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Benoit Chesneau wrote: > Like said Dave this has been discussed in may. I have no strong opinion on > that. Apart the speed which is quite relative to the location where you > live maybe we should also take in consideration the fact that moinmoin is > quite more open than confluence is ie I don't need to ask a license (eve > free) to use it. Also not sure about the syntax as well. > > Since we are using Jira also written by Atlassian that may not a problem > though. > > My 2 cents. > > - benoit > > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Noah Slater wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > We're moving the docs to the source, which is great! > > > > However, we still have some stuff that we wanna keep on the wiki for now: > > > > * Weekly news (not started yet) > > * Merge procedure > > * Release procedure > > * Release preparation > > * Test procedure > > * Committer election process > > * PMC election process > > * Community guide > > * Roadmap process > > * Board reports > > * Board report guide > > * Code of conduct > > * PMC charter > > * By-laws > > * Marketing guide > > * CouchDB vision stuff > > > > Um. Probably more stuff. That's just stuff I am interested in working on. > > Anyway, this is all project-level stuff. Doesn't belong on the homepage, > > doesn't belong in the manual. > > > > I've been editing the wiki more and more recently, and I gotta tell you: > > it's a bag of shit. I mean really, I pressed "submit" on a change about > 20 > > seconds before sending this email, and I'm still writing this email, and > > the page is still loading. > > > > I dunno if any of you have had any experience with the wiki recently, but > > it's been this slow for months. And I am not confident it's gonna get any > > better. > > > > For that reason, I keep thinking about moving to Confluence. I'm not sure > > how much work is involved in that. Perhaps people wanna help out? > > > > Might be a nice opportunity to clear out the stuff that is in Moin, that > we > > don't want there any more, because it's in the docs. (i.e. We just > wouldn't > > move it over.) > > > > If you don't regularly edit the wiki, I'm hoping you wont mind the > proposed > > move. As I say, as someone who is using it fairly regularly, it is > causing > > me a lot of problems. > > > > (Though, I really don't need to be adding work to my plate. Perhaps > someone > > else would be interested in moving the content over? Eugh.) > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > Noah Slater > > https://twitter.com/nslater > > > --001a11c2f800400b2004e3bc2686--