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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:29:55 -0600
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Subject: Re: Google+ community?
From: "matt j. sorenson" <matt@sorensonbros.net>
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1) community growth will happen organically (as it ought), or it won't
happen.

2) I believe email is the least best "single" canonical destination.

Not least of all because the mailing list and the apache web interface to
the mailing list is a lousy news, information, and knowledge archive. That
in itself is enough of a limiting factor.

I think Benoit's on the right track - on the website, s/Mailing
List/Community and build the couchdb "planet", which aggregates the pockets
of couchdb cliques (as you refer to them) around the web as they emerge
and/or are discovered. Then encourage more cliques and more sharing. The
web decentralizes naturally and if someone thinks they can buck that and
control it, it will probably do more harm than good.

p.s. who *is* (are) the community organizer(s) for couchdb?


--
*matt j. sorenson*
mobile: 320-424-0309

phone calls always welcome :)


On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:

> I would never say to someone "do not talk about CouchDB on Twitter or
> Google+ or your own blog." No way! But I'd like to think that the really
> important conversations are finding their way to the mailing lists. You
> know. If you do a blog post, or you there's a really interest discussion
> happening on StackOverflow... Share it with us here.
>
> How can we encourage this sort of activity? For things to filter back
> upstream to the project, where the majority of the community can see it? =
It
> is beneficial for both parties. The wider community finds out about more
> things going on. And the blog post, or the conversation gets more exposur=
e,
> and perhaps more contributions.
>
>
> On 5 March 2013 15:54, Benoit Chesneau <bchesneau@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > imo the more media we spread on, the better it is.
> >
> > Ayway I can understand your concern (i'm more worried to have support
> > done on stackoverflow instead of proper mls and jira but ...) .
> >
> > One of the good thing today in the web is that we can mashup most of
> > the services around in a website . I would find interesting to have
> > the current website reworked to display informations coming from
> > different sources: twitter, g+, of course ml (maybe more) and allows
> > people to search into that. I think it would solve your concern and
> > let others post on their preferred media.
> >
> > - beno=EEt
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
> > > Community cohesion is a big concern for me. Historically, we've
> struggled
> > > with this. And I think we could get a lot better at it. There should
> be a
> > > single obvious place you can go to to be a part of the community, and
> > that
> > > should be the project mailing lists, blog, etc. That doesn't mean the=
re
> > > cannot or should not be pockets of activity in other places. But I am
> > > concerned if those pockets of activity mean that cliques are forming.
> > > Because that would be a detriment to the work we're doing here.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5 March 2013 15:36, matt j. sorenson <matt@sorensonbros.net> wrote=
:
> > >
> > >> sure, just encourage more sharing... the more the better, and stop
> being
> > >> fearful about it. you said it right yourself, if you'd just left it =
at
> > >> this...
> > >>
> > >> -------------------------
> > >> Hey,
> > >>
> > >> Saw this post this morning:
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101311778896778283942/posts/iZgMeo5oGst?cfem=
=3D1
> > >>
> > >> I think it's great that stuff is happening around CouchDB on Google+
> > >> -------------------------
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> *matt j. sorenson*
> > >> mobile: 320-424-0309
> > >>
> > >> phone calls always welcome :)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hey,
> > >> >
> > >> > Saw this post this morning:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101311778896778283942/posts/iZgMeo5oGst?cfem=
=3D1
> > >> >
> > >> > I think it's great that stuff is happening around CouchDB on
> Google+,
> > but
> > >> > it concerns me that news like this is posted away from the project
> > lists,
> > >> > and way from the project.
> > >> >
> > >> > Obviously, we can't dictate to people where they should talk about
> > >> CouchDB.
> > >> > But I am very concerned about us diluting our community.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thoughts on this?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > NS
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > NS
> >
>
>
>
> --
> NS
>

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