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From Benoit Chesneau <bchesn...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Google+ community?
Date Sat, 09 Mar 2013 22:27:04 GMT
i will have a look to see if it can be  automatised. If not i can
probably do the weekly summary.

- benoit

On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
> Benoit,
>
> As you seem to be a steward of the Google+ community, I was wondering this
> morning if you would consider doing a weekly roundup of the activity
> happening over there?
>
> See my recent posts to the user list with links to StackOverflow questions.
>
> Do you think this would be valuable?
>
>
> On 5 March 2013 20:27, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> We are the community organisers for CouchDB. This list. Everyone reading
>> this email.
>>
>> And the ASF tools might be clunky and whatever, but we have to make do
>> with them. And the ASF community guidelines dictate to us that we must keep
>> project activity happening on the lists where it can be seen by everyone.
>>
>> These guidelines are not arbitrary either. Their goal is not to suppress
>> any discussion of a project outside of the project. Their goal is to make
>> sure that communities do not become fractured. Which is, again, a problem
>> that we ought to take seriously. How do we get as much of the project
>> activity happening in a single place so people can follow it?
>>
>> Benoit, I think a weekly news thing is a great idea. And I've been
>> considering this for a few weeks now. Check out what CloudStack do. It's a
>> weekly roundup of all the things going on on the lists, and off the lists.
>>
>> https://blogs.apache.org/cloudstack/entry/apache_cloudstack_weekly_news_11
>>
>> I asked a few questions about how this is being put together. Response
>> here:
>>
>> http://markmail.org/message/d5td5ysoxonm7lvl
>>
>> Now, who wants to take this idea and run with it?
>>
>> Matt, if you make a request to infra they might consider removing your
>> mail.
>>
>>
>> On 5 March 2013 16:34, matt j. sorenson <matt@sorensonbros.net> wrote:
>>
>>> also - invariably i will forget to rip my phone # out of my email sig when
>>> responding to a publicly archived mailing list! gah!
>>>
>>> --
>>> *matt *
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:29 AM, matt j. sorenson <matt@sorensonbros.net
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>> > 1) community growth will happen organically (as it ought), or it won't
>>> > happen.
>>> >
>>> > 2) I believe email is the least best "single" canonical destination.
>>> >
>>> > Not least of all because the mailing list and the apache web interface
>>> to
>>> > the mailing list is a lousy news, information, and knowledge archive.
>>> That
>>> > in itself is enough of a limiting factor.
>>> >
>>> > I think Benoit's on the right track - on the website, s/Mailing
>>> > List/Community and build the couchdb "planet", which aggregates the
>>> pockets
>>> > of couchdb cliques (as you refer to them) around the web as they emerge
>>> > and/or are discovered. Then encourage more cliques and more sharing. The
>>> > web decentralizes naturally and if someone thinks they can buck that and
>>> > control it, it will probably do more harm than good.
>>> >
>>> > p.s. who *is* (are) the community organizer(s) for couchdb?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > *matt j. sorenson*
>>> > mobile: 320-424-0309
>>> >
>>> > phone calls always welcome :)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I would never say to someone "do not talk about CouchDB on Twitter or
>>> >> Google+ or your own blog." No way! But I'd like to think that the
>>> really
>>> >> important conversations are finding their way to the mailing lists.
You
>>> >> know. If you do a blog post, or you there's a really interest
>>> discussion
>>> >> happening on StackOverflow... Share it with us here.
>>> >>
>>> >> How can we encourage this sort of activity? For things to filter back
>>> >> upstream to the project, where the majority of the community can see
>>> it?
>>> >> It
>>> >> is beneficial for both parties. The wider community finds out about
>>> more
>>> >> things going on. And the blog post, or the conversation gets more
>>> >> exposure,
>>> >> and perhaps more contributions.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 5 March 2013 15:54, Benoit Chesneau <bchesneau@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > imo the more media we spread on, the better it is.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Ayway I can understand your concern (i'm more worried to have support
>>> >> > done on stackoverflow instead of proper mls and jira but ...) .
>>> >> >
>>> >> > One of the good thing today in the web is that we can mashup most
of
>>> >> > the services around in a website . I would find interesting to
have
>>> >> > the current website reworked to display informations coming from
>>> >> > different sources: twitter, g+, of course ml (maybe more) and allows
>>> >> > people to search into that. I think it would solve your concern
and
>>> >> > let others post on their preferred media.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > - benoƮt
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> > > Community cohesion is a big concern for me. Historically,
we've
>>> >> struggled
>>> >> > > with this. And I think we could get a lot better at it. There
>>> should
>>> >> be a
>>> >> > > single obvious place you can go to to be a part of the community,
>>> and
>>> >> > that
>>> >> > > should be the project mailing lists, blog, etc. That doesn't
mean
>>> >> there
>>> >> > > cannot or should not be pockets of activity in other places.
But I
>>> am
>>> >> > > concerned if those pockets of activity mean that cliques are
>>> forming.
>>> >> > > Because that would be a detriment to the work we're doing
here.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > On 5 March 2013 15:36, matt j. sorenson <matt@sorensonbros.net>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >> sure, just encourage more sharing... the more the better,
and stop
>>> >> being
>>> >> > >> fearful about it. you said it right yourself, if you'd
just left
>>> it
>>> >> at
>>> >> > >> this...
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> -------------------------
>>> >> > >> Hey,
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Saw this post this morning:
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101311778896778283942/posts/iZgMeo5oGst?cfem=1
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> I think it's great that stuff is happening around CouchDB
on
>>> Google+
>>> >> > >> -------------------------
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> --
>>> >> > >> *matt j. sorenson*
>>> >> > >> mobile: 320-424-0309
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> phone calls always welcome :)
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> > Hey,
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > Saw this post this morning:
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101311778896778283942/posts/iZgMeo5oGst?cfem=1
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > I think it's great that stuff is happening around
CouchDB on
>>> >> Google+,
>>> >> > but
>>> >> > >> > it concerns me that news like this is posted away
from the
>>> project
>>> >> > lists,
>>> >> > >> > and way from the project.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > Obviously, we can't dictate to people where they
should talk
>>> about
>>> >> > >> CouchDB.
>>> >> > >> > But I am very concerned about us diluting our community.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > Thoughts on this?
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > Thanks,
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > --
>>> >> > >> > NS
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > --
>>> >> > > NS
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> NS
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> NS
>>
>
>
>
> --
> NS

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