Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org
Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of chewbranca@gmail.com
 designates 209.85.220.52 as permitted sender)
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: 
 <CABvT1DGyX3JBfFZsC+d1WAFnhcuT+2zcNWCybyvaVtZhkQQxtg@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
 <CAFUSCh-en-K44NBmy=WYVJGkwgkA_Nepb6zcC_V5_2_fSA024Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAL6JQhBgiss45MRQGejLkuE3UQZYf1zqm5SaqZUjaN8TGVPPg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJNb-9r+vJAmoeVXcUktJcM9yvSBfX=1w3RbhWOeDrNpX9eaiw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJNb-9oETSz=eVpBh9d-Ah102so9dCwN0Y3MWWBPxiUmVKHnUA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AB42C50337F5461196718587EA90E56D@cloudant.com>
	<CAGt9U8jPQnmtcAfLuRnBbQzULe22Xj6_jEdt=kuC90RmJciXwg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHdjipLsCt_iNozs6Hp1Pvxs28XDcXk-WdSt_sfOrpT6bG5ExQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4679D8A1A1BF4B16B584949A73A4FBD7@cloudant.com>
	<CABvT1DGyX3JBfFZsC+d1WAFnhcuT+2zcNWCybyvaVtZhkQQxtg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:00:48 -0700
Message-ID: 
 <CAFUSCh9acY6jNDon4r+r7LgapO0AhtNSgiLFBpnwq74dndraNA@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Futon.Next Proof of Concept
From: Russell Branca <chewbranca@gmail.com>
To: dev@couchdb.apache.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I understand your apprehension, however, the primary ways of minifying
javascript these days is with a javascript lib, or with a java lib.

It should be noted that the node.js dependency is strictly as a build
tool, and not actually required for building couchdb. We could make it
an optional dependency, and just have a default compiled version in
the codebase at all times, allowing you to skip the node.js dependency
if you just want the standard configuration. For a vanilla couchdb
install, there shouldn't actually be any changes necessary to the
compiled app, so this could be a reasonable approach.


-Russell

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:49 AM, Robert Newson <rnewson@apache.org> wrote:
> Needing node.js to build couchdb? I hate that.
>
>
> On 1 November 2012 11:46, Simon Metson <simon@cloudant.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 1 November 2012 at 11:35, Alexander Shorin wrote:
>>
>> > Because it's additional semi justified dependencies and whole project
>> > goes far away from couchapp concept, imho.
>>
>> I don't think it does. In fact I'd say it emphasises the flexibility of
>> couch apps and how they play nicely with other tools ("hey look, you can
>> use this database with the toolset I'm used to from jquery").
>> > If Erica will be bundled tool out of CouchDB box, better to dance around
>> him.
>>
>> I'd rather use something that exists today and evaluate erica when it is
>> included with CouchDB and has the necessary feature set in the future.
>>
>> With grunt we can get consistent build environments, with erica we'd
>> either have people installing tools (linters, less compiler, minify-ers
>> etc) manually/ad-hoc, have to rely on something like npm (and if we're
>> doing that, why not use grunt?) or build it ourselves (eurgh!).
>>
>> Cheers
>> Simon
>>
>>