Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DDC09DC8D for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 12:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 54346 invoked by uid 500); 1 Nov 2012 12:22:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 54223 invoked by uid 500); 1 Nov 2012 12:22:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 54195 invoked by uid 99); 1 Nov 2012 12:22:20 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 12:22:20 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [80.244.253.218] (HELO mail.traeumt.net) (80.244.253.218) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 12:22:02 +0000 Received: from rose.coup (unknown [178.19.216.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.traeumt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A813514091 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:15:45 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.1 \(1498\)) Subject: Re: Futon.Next Proof of Concept From: Jan Lehnardt In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:21:44 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9CC0293A-B82C-4AD5-9DF2-FD5EAC9DE724@apache.org> References: <4679D8A1A1BF4B16B584949A73A4FBD7@cloudant.com> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1498) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Nov 1, 2012, at 12:49 , Robert Newson wrote: > Needing node.js to build couchdb? I hate that. Thanks for your opinion. I wouldn=92t mind if it means we get a new Futon and more contributors. Cheers Jan --=20 > On 1 November 2012 11:46, Simon Metson wrote: >=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >>=20 >> On Thursday, 1 November 2012 at 11:35, Alexander Shorin wrote: >>=20 >>> Because it's additional semi justified dependencies and whole = project >>> goes far away from couchapp concept, imho. >>=20 >> I don't think it does. In fact I'd say it emphasises the flexibility = of >> couch apps and how they play nicely with other tools ("hey look, you = can >> use this database with the toolset I'm used to from jquery"). >>> If Erica will be bundled tool out of CouchDB box, better to dance = around >> him. >>=20 >> I'd rather use something that exists today and evaluate erica when it = is >> included with CouchDB and has the necessary feature set in the = future. >>=20 >> With grunt we can get consistent build environments, with erica we'd >> either have people installing tools (linters, less compiler, = minify-ers >> etc) manually/ad-hoc, have to rely on something like npm (and if = we're >> doing that, why not use grunt?) or build it ourselves (eurgh!). >>=20 >> Cheers >> Simon >>=20 >>=20