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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 12:43:10 +0100
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Subject: Re: Inspiring comment about CouchDB on Hacker News
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That "defunct" comment is rather upsetting. Wasn't true then, isn't
true now. But perhaps this just reinforces my zero tolerance policy on
HN.

Sent from the ocean floor

On 9 Oct 2012, at 10:50, Noah Slater <nslater@tumbolia.org> wrote:

> My old CouchDB retrospective ended up on the front page of HN, again...
>
> http://hackerne.ws/item?id=4622986
>
> I thought I would quote this, by Riyad Kalla, because I find it very
> inspiring:
>
> FWIW, this was written in July of 2010 (2+ years ago) -- CouchDB is in a
>> very different place now than it was then.
>
>
>
> Reading the mailing lists of CouchDB, Redis, MongoDB and Cassandra are
>> _very_ different experiences.
>
>
>
> CouchDB's list reads like 10 or so of the same people discussing very high
>> level efforts like documentation and Windows builds, developing the DB at a
>> glacial pace -- including merging in changes from all the spin-off CouchDB
>> efforts that all seem to be defunct now (e.g. BigCouch and the sharding
>> code).
>
>
>
> Tangentially, MongoDB/Redis/Cassandra mailing lists are NOTHING but "How do
>> I..." questions, deployment questions, feature development questions, patch
>> submissions, etc. (more-so Cassandra and MongoDB lists).
>
>
>
> CouchDB to me has found this life that feels very academic to me which I
>> think is a good thing in the long-term for the project. The principles are
>> in no rush to get to features and have the motto "slow and consistent wins
>> the race". I would be surprised at all if a few years go by and then
>> CouchDB gets rediscovered suddenly as the panacea to everything (something
>> akin to how Jetty suddenly became hot business in the Java server world
>> after being mostly ignored for 10 years)
>
>
>
> With the money behind Cassandra and Mongo it is probably not much of a
>> surprise that there are much more new deployments going on and Redis has
>> found a place somewhere between the two with what I would say is a
>> Linus-like steward at the helm (props to Salvatorefor being everything that
>> is right with open-source)
>
>
>
> I wouldn't build a commercial product on CouchDB tomorrow, but I am eagerly
>> waiting to see where it goes in the next year. It is wonderfully designed,
>> but I'd like to see some of the nagging "table stakes" issues like
>> replication failures fixed before caring about Feature XYZ and release 2.0
>
>
> Here's to the future! We have a lot of work to do.
>
> Bisou,
>
> --
> NS