Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B6AEA9BC7 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2012 20:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 40512 invoked by uid 500); 4 Feb 2012 20:02:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 40399 invoked by uid 500); 4 Feb 2012 20:02:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 40391 invoked by uid 99); 4 Feb 2012 20:02:32 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:02:32 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of randall.leeds@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.180 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.180] (HELO mail-iy0-f180.google.com) (209.85.210.180) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:02:28 +0000 Received: by iabz7 with SMTP id z7so8801114iab.11 for ; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:02:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BDmlu5le6QOm+4lMexd6MbfNoQ8zy641wyZEXdmpeqg=; b=LTZq+IxO+VLtnp9+EeYr3seRGBGVC28m5/1/IOljLqK5PJfIsFqBCxtsLl/DcasOZf K+sJ+9YtQbBZTCL44EW+bxDUYBA8RuwcmYb8bYYxCKy4e6kS1v2wed14pxtp3g5b5Qnl H/2SpLdp5CqGLq05XnFcEhKNs94qDhnyM5GqM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.153.234 with SMTP id vj10mr14359124igb.16.1328385726345; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:02:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.165.72 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:02:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <850092711C09C042B93EC2F4F2E8B1E70277411C42@ex-mbx4.hosting.local> <1328041459.6368.26.camel@julia.gcs.org.hu> <850092711C09C042B93EC2F4F2E8B1E7027741223B@ex-mbx4.hosting.local> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:02:06 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: backport of couchdb From: Randall Leeds To: till@php.net Cc: dev@couchdb.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I haven't tried to build the debian .deb yet, but it should build from my branch at github[1]. I used git-dpm for the packaging. It should be enough to check out that branch and pbuild it or whatever preferred tools you use. The Ubuntu version is uploaded to a PPA [2]. If there's interest I'll roll a binary or source .deb on a debian chroot. Someone got to tell me which debian release I should use though (or several?). I'll also try to pull together a 1.2 package for the latest Ubuntu LTS release. I guess I should probably do debian stable and testing (but not unstable?) [1] http://github.com/tilgovi/couchdb/tree/debian [2] https://launchpad.net/~randall-leeds/+archive/couchdb/ On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 10:24, till wrote: > I remember Randall had a launchpad repo to build CouchDB. (CC'd him, mayb= e > he can weigh in how far he got) > > Launchpad is probably not a 100% compatible with Debian (since it targets > Ubuntu distributions) but the 'basic formula' could be contributed to > something like dotdeb? > > Anyone have thoughts? > > Till > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Jens Rantil wro= te: >> >> Hi again everyone, >> >> I am happy to get a discussion going about this. I'd say Debian is a maj= or >> platform for servers. Therefor, I believe CouchDB should exist there - w= ith >> a reasonable modern version. Sure, you can install from source. However, >> with CouchDB and it's replication features it should be easy to roll it = out >> to a multitude of Debian servers and kick off replication. >> >> Also, previously Couchbase was hosting a (sadly, buggy) Debian package. >> After the death of the Couchbase package[1] there is no modern Debian >> package alternative anymore. >> >> To keep this discussion going - what did you think of Jan's proposal to >> set up a Debian maintainer mailing list? As of the initial question, sha= ll >> Debian stable installations be living with 0.11 for another ~6 months? I >> guess so. >> >> /J >> >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >> Fr=C3=A5n: Jan Lehnardt [mailto:jan@apache.org] >> Skickat: den 31 januari 2012 21:42 >> Till: dev@couchdb.apache.org >> Kopia: Laszlo Boszormenyi >> =C3=84mne: Re: backport of couchdb >> >> Hi Laszlo, >> >> On Jan 31, 2012, at 21:24 , Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > First, I'm an official DD and the maintainer of CouchDB. >> >> Pleased to meet you and thanks for weighing in on this discussion :) >> >> >> >> As for the back porting, Debian doesn't directly manage any packages. >> >> Everything has a package maintainer who may or may not be part of the >> >> Debian staff, so it really does land on the maintainer. And I don't >> >> see how you could back port fixes from, say, 1.x.x to 0.x.x. >> > Let me ask an other way. Is CouchDB expected to change a lot >> > internally? >> >> I think it is. The question, I think, is how much end-users will be >> affected by these changes (upgrade trouble, incompatibilities etc.) We a= re >> doing our best to not break BC (according to semver.org) and make upgrad= es >> seamless and well documented. >> >> > What about helping downstream with security fixes? >> >> We could start a new mailing list package-maintainers@couchdb.apache.org >> where downstream folks can subscribe and get notified about impeding >> releases as well as security notices. Would that be a good first step? >> What else could we do to help you downstream? >> >> > When CouchDB 1.2.0 is expected to be released? >> >> We are expecting to call a vote in the next few days (pending release >> manager time). As per our process, it'll take 4-5 days after the initial >> call for voting to get the release out (if the votes don't go through an= d if >> issues are found, this process is reset). >> >> Let us know if you have any other questions and thanks again for helping >> out! >> >> Cheers >> Jan >> -- >> >