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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 12:59:06 +0200
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Subject: Re: CouchDB 1.1.1
From: Benoit Chesneau <bchesneau@gmail.com>
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On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Paul Davis <paul.joseph.davis@gmail.com> w=
rote:
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Benoit Chesneau <bchesneau@gmail.com> wro=
te:
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Paul Davis <paul.joseph.davis@gmail.com=
> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Robert Newson <rnewson@apache.org> wrot=
e:
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> Paul Davis has researched the issue and it seems intractable.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to remove 1.8.5 support from 1.1.1. It was not present in
>>>> 1.1.0 so will not be (officially) missed.
>>>>
>>>> The place for a breaking change of this magnitude is 1.2, not a minor
>>>> bug fix release.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> B.
>>>>
>>>
>>> +1 on removing the paren hack for sure.
>>>
>>> Not sure about removing 1.8.5 support completely. On the one hand, it
>>> would prevent breakage because people couldn't link against the
>>> breaking SM. On the other hand, it prevents people from linking
>>> against 1.8.5 which means it won't build on Ubuntu 11.x.
>>
>>
>> Is this really a problem with 1.8.5 ? How do you explain then that I
>> have to remove this changes to have refuge working with it then?
>>
>> https://github.com/refuge/refuge/commit/481bd6623ccfc8895eacf8a1528bffa5=
efa4ad47#apps/couch/share/server/util.js
>>
>> Refuge is only working with 1.8.5.
>>
>>
>> - beno=EEt
>>
>
> Things I know for certain:
>
> This fails in the js shell from the 1.8.5 tarball:
>
> =A0 =A0eval("function(){}")
>
> It also fails on the package in Debian that is supposed to be
> SpiderMonkey 1.8.5. It also fails on a checkout of the mercurial
> repository with hash 959c1e6bdb11.
>
> Fact of the matter, SpiderMonkey distribution is notorious in its
> avoidance of anything resembling a versioning scheme that we can use
> to refer to API/ABI compatibility across platforms. Not that it
> matters as it's apparently a fix, so at the end of the day "new
> SpiderMonkey breaks code that has worked for years."
>
> By enabling the linkage (for which, if code were proper, things would
> work) we introduce a non-obvious new behavior error.
>
> If we *intentionally disable* 1.8.5 linking, then we avoid introducing
> errors subtly into code that has always worked if someone tries to
> upgrade SpiderMonkey to a version that breaks old code. That said, we
> also limit the ability of CouchDB to run easily on OS's that include
> newer SpiderMonkeys.
>

The odd thing is that refuge is using the archive downloadable on
mozilla website.

Anyway that doesn't change anything to the fact that we should correct
our js I agree. I would be for a 2.0 then, like noah.

- benoit