Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 33493 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2010 10:34:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 9 Jun 2010 10:34:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 61427 invoked by uid 500); 9 Jun 2010 10:34:55 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 61276 invoked by uid 500); 9 Jun 2010 10:34:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 61268 invoked by uid 99); 9 Jun 2010 10:34:53 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:34:53 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of klimpong@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.52 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.161.52] (HELO mail-fx0-f52.google.com) (209.85.161.52) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:34:46 +0000 Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so398176fxm.11 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 03:34:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:reply-to:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lFbYEw1t5imkZYRMTqqM3LVptD2DoW2a9cIOqHCOIcQ=; b=Ok+g64BbE1VIVjnrw3Lm6zO+1Busqof+7J8kcZe6YzwdGnNse0cnx1VwUxMlgTWgMj KY/SQevbsR0+KXcaZ6g/p45nqmnIvtTBHGjL9wIWJZY3507Vq30jnY283nFt5EMa4BJ6 +x+NpjHbn4xskSeRFcEW7pwglBqu5J/BhAFxo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Q0IThWLEw7OGac7ZrQRk3yMdkR6bXwZhtQbwzo20dszW8YH8vXZPcCSNA3LIua6rAf v1a39y9lgtXKy5l6DeveMBjBrHEesJwE1zxhFX1qubF+g1QSyllpR70UyGkahrZ5YZoQ Vz4zZHZqoJAcii7jCawFevX2Byvuvy0+ThRZ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.102.15.17 with SMTP id 17mr5794541muo.134.1276079666277; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 03:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: klimpong@gmail.com Reply-To: till@php.net Received: by 10.103.170.17 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 03:34:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:34:26 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1TeYma_MC-sq6ETT2vbug5lSLD0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CouchDB Partitioning Proposal From: till To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hey Rob, the rest of us is missing the earlier part of the discussion. :D Or maybe the reply is broken and I didn't get sorted to the original email... Btw, if interested in the partitioning, etc. - free free to subscribe to the lounge mailinglist: http://groups.google.com/group/couchdb-lounge Till On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Rob Stewart wrote: > Hi Randall, > > With a response time like that, efficiency is your strong point. > > > First of all, seeing as through there are a number of =93solutions=94, it= 's > clear that there are positives to come from a fully distributed CouchDB > database. So I am not put off by that. > > > Next, you suggest potential like solution as Cassandra and Dynamo. I'd te= nd > to agree, as these are stable distributed systems. On saying that, Cassan= dra > doesn't use Erlang (as a Java implementation), though it adopted the > flexible column layout from Google's BigTable. I've also had a look at > MongoDB, which is a C++ implementation, but with similar goals as CouchDB > (document-oriented database). They are currently working on database > partitioning, though it's in its alpha stages, in version 1.5.3. I imagin= e > that MongoDB could be a good design guide for CouchDB in the future shoul= d > its sharding implementation matures. > > > In a slightly unrelated note, can I point you to a paper published in > February, 2010 - =93Key/Value Datastores Comparison in AppScale=94. Brief= ly, > AppScale is a open source drop-in replacement for Google's App Engine, an= d > provides API's to Cloud based web applications (typicall), and at the > backend that have plugged in their app API's to the API's of 7 distribute= d > databases (including Cassandra and MongoDB). What are the chances of > attaching CouchDB to the AppScale API's ? > > > My final point is Scalaris. (Google =93Reliable Transactional P2P Key/Val= ue > Store=94). Like CouchDB, it is a P2P datastore, implemented in Erlang. Ap= pears > to be similar in design and implementation to CouchDB, to me? It uses Cho= rd# > to storing and retreiving key/values in nodes. It seemingly has support f= or > Heterogeneous hardware clusters, and it currently uses an in-memory > disctionary for database stores, though using Mnesia has been suggested. > > > Is that enough, to generate discussion, Randall ? > > > > Rob Stewart >