Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1601EDAD0 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 63521 invoked by uid 500); 5 Mar 2013 17:06:45 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-marketing-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 63464 invoked by uid 500); 5 Mar 2013 17:06:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cloudstack-marketing-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: cloudstack-marketing@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cloudstack-marketing@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 63446 invoked by uid 99); 5 Mar 2013 17:06:43 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:06:43 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: unknown mxmx:stratosec-co.mail.eo.outlook.comip4:184.172.14.119~all (nike.apache.org: encountered unrecognized mechanism during SPF processing of domain of jlk@stratosec.co) Received: from [216.32.180.30] (HELO va3outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com) (216.32.180.30) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:06:37 +0000 Received: from mail27-va3-R.bigfish.com (10.7.14.247) by VA3EHSOBE004.bigfish.com (10.7.40.24) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:06:16 +0000 Received: from mail27-va3 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail27-va3-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002EA120351 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:06:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.242.197;KIP:(null);UIP:(null);IPV:NLI;H:BL2PRD0512HT001.namprd05.prod.outlook.com;RD:none;EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: 2 X-BigFish: PS2(z2b68kz98dI9371I1454Ic85eh1432Izz1f42h1ee6h1de0h1d18h1202h1e76h1d1ah1d2ah1082kzz177df4h17326ah8275bh8275dh1954cbhz2dh2a8h668h839hd25he5bhf0ah1288h12a5h12bdh137ah139eh1441h1504h1537h162dh1631h1662h1758h1898h18e1h1946h19b5h19ceh1ad9h1b0ah1155h) Received: from mail27-va3 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail27-va3 (MessageSwitch) id 1362503126587610_1517; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VA3EHSMHS002.bigfish.com (unknown [10.7.14.242]) by mail27-va3.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DA0440276 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BL2PRD0512HT001.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (157.56.242.197) by VA3EHSMHS002.bigfish.com (10.7.99.12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:05:25 +0000 Received: from 61.87.208.web-pass.com (208.87.61.16) by pod51010.outlook.com (10.255.233.34) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.275.6; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:05:23 +0000 From: John Kinsella Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A874A4A1-A4E8-4F42-A9B0-F9CC7953D1C1" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: website idea Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:05:19 -0800 References: To: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Originating-IP: [208.87.61.16] X-OriginatorOrg: stratosec.co X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail=_A874A4A1-A4E8-4F42-A9B0-F9CC7953D1C1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" First thought: "noooooooooooooooo!" ;) Second thought: As ACS is a fairly major project and not a CI engine = (sorry, but=85), our website has three purposes: a) Get operational folks to want to try ACS b) Get developers interested in contributing to ACS c) Educate others about why ACS is so #@$@#$ awesome and they (or their = teams, or their companies) should be using it. (feel free to expand/contrast on this) So, with that said - =46rom my experience, the stereotypical Twitter = Bootstrap sites do not say that to me. They say "this is a site that was = quickly set up by a developer so he could get back to something else." = There's not a single graphic element on inria's site - except for 2 = buttons. Not pretty by any means, IMHO. I'm reminded of Ruby projects or = Github projects who think 15 lines in their README.md is AWESOME for = their project's website. Take a look at the other cloud provisioning project's site. Both looks = better and does a better job of communicating what it is. Here's a few sites I've seen recently that I consider "pretty" and = "modern" sites: https://jawbone.com/up - admittedly complicated https://www.meldium.com/ - probably bootstrap based, but at least looks = good IMHO http://www.qualtrics.com/ http://couchdb.apache.org/ - Just pulled it up while looking through the = ASF project list - not bad! One thing that we should probably do - look at the websites of other = players in the space - OnApp, Eucalyptus, VMWare, etc. Our site has to = play at that level, not a website built for an engineer looking for a CI = platform (sorry, but=85) I realize we need a site that's easy to manage and update, but let's see = if we can balance that with something that people remember. John On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Sebastien Goasguen wrote: > Hi, thinking about website designs, I ran into this one: >=20 > https://ci.inria.fr >=20 > It's simple, yet modern. >=20 > I think something along this line with CloudStack logos and some good = thinking of categories would work well. >=20 > -sebastien Stratosec - Secure Infrastructure as a Service o: 415.315.9385 @johnlkinsella --Apple-Mail=_A874A4A1-A4E8-4F42-A9B0-F9CC7953D1C1--