Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 73DE9EAB3 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 22:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 64958 invoked by uid 500); 28 Feb 2013 22:38:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 64919 invoked by uid 500); 28 Feb 2013 22:38:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cloudstack-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 64910 invoked by uid 99); 28 Feb 2013 22:38:57 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 22:38:57 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of animesh.chaturvedi@citrix.com designates 66.165.176.63 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.165.176.63] (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 22:38:50 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,757,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="9920062" Received: from sjcpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.216.14.74]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 28 Feb 2013 22:38:29 +0000 Received: from SJCPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.216.4.72]) by SJCPMAILMX01.citrite.net ([10.216.14.74]) with mapi; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:38:28 -0800 From: Animesh Chaturvedi To: "cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org" Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:38:27 -0800 Subject: RE: Summary of why where and how development happens matters Thread-Topic: Summary of why where and how development happens matters Thread-Index: Ac4WAY1RIXhauVY9S5Oz0TQXcLSOtQAAhWuA Message-ID: <7A92FF96DF135843B4B608FB576BFC3E012F74C418E9@SJCPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> References: <20130227185128.GX81779@USLT-205755.sungardas.corp> <20130228061538.GF2058@cloud-2.local> <20130228063035.GI2058@cloud-2.local> <9C992E2C-77E1-4A9C-ABAB-BDFD8F7E214F@basho.com> In-Reply-To: <9C992E2C-77E1-4A9C-ABAB-BDFD8F7E214F@basho.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org John, I agree we need to merge in logical chunks sooner rather than later t= hat allows for reviews and feedback sooner.=20 Chip I can take the first stab at putting this in a wiki but would require = collaboration with you and Alex to get it crisp and clear > -----Original Message----- > From: John Burwell [mailto:jburwell@basho.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:18 PM > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Summary of why where and how development happens > matters >=20 > All, >=20 > I would also like to add to a thought to the specific example given by Al= ex. I > think we need to approach feature design and implementation in a manner > that does not produce 3 months of effort before it can merged into master= . > Regardless of where work occurs, 3 months of work (and the associated > 1000s of lines of code) going unintegrated is a significant project risk. >=20 > Thanks, > -John >=20 > On Feb 28, 2013, at 1:30 AM, Prasanna Santhanam wrote: >=20 > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:52:28AM +0530, David Nalley wrote: > >> On Feb 27, 2013 10:16 PM, "Prasanna Santhanam" > wrote: > >>> > >>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:21:28AM +0530, Chip Childers wrote: > >>>> The TL;DR version: > >>>> > >>>> The issue that we ran into with several features being developed > >>>> "outside the community" for 4.1 was a major deal, and it had > >>>> several implications. First, doing that effectively hurts our > >>>> community. The other issue is related to the legal right of the > >>>> project to accept the code developed elsewhere. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Ok - I read *all* of it and still have a lingering question: > >>> > >>> What happens to code/docs etc that is released by a commercial > >>> entity re-branding ACS with the ASF license before it is released as > >>> an official ACS release? Said code was developed per the community > >>> guidelines but just was released before the ACS code was released. > >>> Is that okay? > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Prasanna., > >> > >> That is okay. > >> We don't care what people do with ACS code. We care that code that > >> comes into ACS is developed here. > > > > Thanks David - everything looks good otherwise. > > > > -- > > Prasanna.,