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From Joe Brockmeier <...@zonker.net>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Animesh Chaturvedi as a committer
Date Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:33:41 GMT
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013, at 01:01 AM, Rohit Yadav wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alex Huang <Alex.Huang@citrix.com>
> wrote:
> > This was not meant for cloudstack-dev....I'm sure I will get a ton of +1 replies
but please refrain from replying to this.
> 
> While this is the first time a proposal was made public, I had to
> rant, the toughest email I had to write, but anyway you should ignore
> it:
> 
> Should we have transparency on committer proposals and votes? It's

No. When we have a discussion/vote about a committer, we should be able
to have a frank conversation about that person's contributions - which
may or may not be something an individual would want aired in a public
forum, and a public forum is not the best way to get honest feedback
about an individual. 

I don't have any problem publicly saying "I don't think your idea /
patch is good" but that's a far cry from saying - on a publicly archived
list, mind you - "Bob Q. Contributor is not someone I'd like to give
commit access to." 

> because I feel we're not proposing people based on pure merits. 

I think you're mistaking merits for metrics below. That's not to say no
one below has merit, but how many messages are sent to the mailing list
or the number of patches are not, strictly speaking, the only things
that we should look at. 

- Does a person submit a good patch that should have gone in
immediately, or does it require guidance before being put in?
- Are they following good community practices? 
- Have they been doing this consistently over time? 

> example, my git rank (git shortlog -sn) and ML participating tells me
> the following folks were participating since many months, they have
> good commits and their patches only fall behind due to their review
> not getting love on time:
>     21  Sateesh Chodapuneedi
>     20  Devdeep Singh
>     16  Sanjay Tripathi
>     14  James Martin
>     12  Gavin Lee

Actually, Gavin is already a committer. 

Anyway - if you feel someone is deserving of committer status, and
you're not on the PPMC, I'd encourage you to speak up (privately) to
someone on the PPMC if you feel they're being overlooked. But discussing
specific individuals on -dev is unfair to those people and puts the PPMC
in a bad position. 

Best,

jzb
-- 
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/

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