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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Nicira and VMware (CLOUDSTACK-728)
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Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 23 jan. 2013 om 22:04 heeft "Chip Childers" <chip.childers@sungard.com> =
het volgende geschreven:

> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Hugo Trippaers
> <HTrippaers@schubergphilis.com> wrote:
>> Hey Chip,
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>> I'm planning on supporting the "new" version with Nicira NVP support dir=
ectly built in. I can have a look at the other solution as well. It should =
not be too much trouble to integrate it. The main issue with supporting new=
 hypervisors is to patch the hypervisor resource to set the correct paramet=
ers on the Vif when starting a vm. The actual plugin doing the NVP integrat=
ion doesn't need any modifications to support more hypervisors.
>>=20
>> The current hacky approach with the vm image still delivers a decent per=
formance, but nowhere near the performance you would get on a Xen host (or =
KVM). If there is any interest in getting the support for it done, I'm game=
 :-)
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> Honestly, I wasn't suggesting that we do that...  it seems
> exceptionally complex for the value you get.  I'm all for waiting for
> the "integrated experience".  I was mostly curious.

Ok :-). I'll put it on a shelf for a rainy Sunday afternoon then. ;-)


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> -chip
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>> Other stuff that is on my wish list is support for security groups using=
 the existing NVP filter engine.
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>> Cheers,
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>> Hugo
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>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
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>> Op 23 jan. 2013 om 21:05 heeft "Chip Childers" <chip.childers@sungard.co=
m> het volgende geschreven:
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>>> Hugo,
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>>> I was just talking with the folks at Nicira, and had the current
>>> VMware integration approach explained to me.  AFAIK, you end up
>>> needing to have a VM running OVS on the host, with two VMware virtual
>>> switches (one for your overlay transport, and one for your guest VMs
>>> to attach to).  Was this the model you were considering working to
>>> orchestrate?  Or were you considering waiting to see how the Nicira
>>> technology will be better integrated into ESXi?
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>>> One one hand, the current approach is absolutely a hack (and prone to
>>> performance issues).  On the other hand, waiting for a better
>>> ESX/Nicira integration may take a good amount of time, and probably
>>> won't be backward compatible with older ESXi versions.
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>>> Thoughts?
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>>> -chip
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