Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0FF2E6CA for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 19:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 37937 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jan 2013 19:58:34 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 37900 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jan 2013 19:58:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cloudstack-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 37892 invoked by uid 99); 3 Jan 2013 19:58:34 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 19:58:34 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of rohit.yadav@citrix.com designates 203.166.19.134 as permitted sender) Received: from [203.166.19.134] (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM.AU) (203.166.19.134) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 19:58:29 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,404,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="261100" Received: from banpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.73]) by SYDPIPO01.CITRIX.COM.AU with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 03 Jan 2013 19:58:07 +0000 Received: from BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.72]) by BANPMAILMX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.73]) with mapi; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 01:28:05 +0530 From: Rohit Yadav To: "cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org" Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 01:28:01 +0530 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws Thread-Topic: [VOTE] Project Bylaws Thread-Index: Ac3p7KTWYvrL0rgERR6buYd/JXlmQw== Message-ID: <6203F3A4-2524-494D-B6B1-32FD4E93D11A@citrix.com> References: <50E59A16.3030201@widodh.nl> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org +1 (binding) Thanks for the reply, casting binding vote. >>> 3. Veteos >> Who can Veto? Timeframe when a veto is challenged? >>=20 >=20 > The "who" is anyone that can cast a binding vote on an issue. > Further, veto's are only applicable for "lazy consensus" style formal > votes or technical decisions. >=20 > I'm not sure I get your timeframe question though=85 The question was if someone challenges a vote by committing a binding veto = -1, and if their veto is challenged (say the reasons were not obvious) and = they are asked for reason(s) what should be the timeline for the person to = reply/communicate. (say a case of someone trolling, the question was about = handling trolls :) Regards. >=20 >> Regards. >>=20 >>=20 >> On 03-Jan-2013, at 6:58 AM, Chip Childers > wrote: >>=20 >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Wido den Hollander > wrote: >> On 01/02/2013 09:52 PM, Chip Childers wrote: >>=20 >> One quick follow up. >>=20 >> If we approve the bylaw draft, I'll publish it to the website. >> However, the document comes from the perspective of CloudStack being a >> top level project (graduated from the incubator). I'd likely include >> a header note indicating this issue. My preference is to approach the >> process this way, so that we don't have to do an amendment process >> during / after a potential / eventual graduation. >>=20 >>=20 >> Not to be picky, but shouldn't this be changed then? >>=20 >>=20 >> "3.1.1. Decisions regarding the project are made by votes on the primary >> project >>=20 >> development mailing list (cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org)." >>=20 >>=20 >> If you are writing like we are graduated should we keep the incubator >> address there? Just to prevent this bylaws being copied and we being hau= nted >> by this e-mail address still being present in there. >>=20 >> Other then that: +1 (binding) >>=20 >> Wido >>=20 >> -chip >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Agreed. I'll make that change in the wiki version. Unless anyone >> objects, I don't think this change represents a reason to restart the >> vote. >>=20