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From Kelly Hair <ke...@routerlab.net>
Subject Re: CloudStack VS OpenStack - stack wars
Date Wed, 23 Jan 2013 23:54:27 GMT
Right - CloudStack split out in March/April 2012 time frame.  Relevant
article: http://gigaom.com/2012/04/04/5-takeaways-from-the-cloudstack-openstack-dustup/

That would coincide with an earlier 2.2.14 release.  See:
http://download.cloud.com/support/downloads.html

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On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 6:37 PM,  <kdamage@apache.org> wrote:
> Hmm, they state in 2012 cloudstack become a project independent of openstack. This is
odd because they were well into v2.x in 2012, and there was no mention of code connection
to openstack at  that point.
>
> References? Does anyone know the details?
>
> -kd
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:34 PM
>>To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>Subject: RE: CloudStack VS OpenStack - stack wars
>>
>>Thank you Kelly
>>
>>Much appreciated.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Kelly Hair [mailto:kelly@routerlab.net]
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:23 PM
>>To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>Subject: Re: CloudStack VS OpenStack - stack wars
>>
>>Ilya,
>>
>>A couple of links that may help from a recent article:
>>
>>http://www.cio.com/article/725641/Open_Source_Cloud_Battles_Openstack
>>_Leveling_Off_as_Cloudstack_Interest_Gains
>>
>>and.. the article referenced above with some data behind it is:
>>http://www.qyjohn.net/?p=2733
>>
>>Regards,
>>Kelly
>>
>>PS/disclaimer - I head up NE cloud development for Citrix so feel free to reach
>>out to me @ kelly.hair@citrix.com if you need support, indemnification or any
>>other items as part of your justification.
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Clayton Weise <cweise@iswest.net>
>>wrote:
>>> One last thing which is that of maturity.  Although the name "CloudStack" is
>>fairly new the project has been around for quite a bit more time than
>>OpenStack but just under the name VMOps and then cloud.com before being
>>acquired by Citrix and then eventually becoming Apache CloudStack.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sebastien Goasguen [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:15 AM
>>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: CloudStack VS OpenStack - stack wars
>>>
>>> Ilya, it's a difficult one to answer on this list.
>>>
>>> However, if you try to remain objective I would point out some reading to
>>your management:
>>>
>>> -Dell is holding off on openstack cloud offering:
>>>
>>http://www.cloudecosystem.com/author.asp?section_id=1873&doc_id=2568
>>15
>>>
>>> -HP cloud running on openstack is considered a fork (I could not find a more
>>recent article, so one would need to check this):
>>> http://www.wired.com/insights/2011/09/hp-launches-cloud-beta-dell-warn
>>> s-them-on-openstack-dont-fork-it-up/
>>>
>>> -And the gartner "warning":
>>> http://www.gartner.com/technology/reprints.do?id=1-
>>1C3IGID&ct=120919&s
>>> t=sb
>>>
>>> Other than that, I think the best thing to do is a 2 weeks bake off at your
>>company to evaluate what works best for your local constraints.
>>>
>>> -Sebastien
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 23, 2013, at 1:35 AM, "Musayev, Ilya" <imusayev@webmd.net>
>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> So would like to start by saying - I'm all for CS - I really like the community,
>>what it offers and simplicity.
>>>>
>>>> With that in mind, I need help defending CloudStack vs OpenStack to my
>>management team.
>>>>
>>>> Basically I was approached by management team saying they attended an
>>executive meeting and there is a much greater adoption/usage rate for
>>openstack vs cloudstack. I don't want to mention the numbers - but they are
>>very significant. As a point of comparison, just go to any job site (I used
>>linkedin job search feature) and use look for number of current opening for
>>cloudstack and then openstack.
>>>>
>>>> With that in mind, I need help defending cloudstack - in house.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone did a bake off in house - that is recent, please help and
>>contribute to this thread.
>>>>
>>>> I will the post it on wiki if no-one objects.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> ilya
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>
>



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