Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 362E9ED2B for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 43204 invoked by uid 500); 19 Dec 2012 19:07:52 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 43161 invoked by uid 500); 19 Dec 2012 19:07:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cloudstack-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 43148 invoked by uid 99); 19 Dec 2012 19:07:52 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:07:52 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: unknown mxinclude:zoho.com~all (athena.apache.org: encountered unrecognized mechanism during SPF processing of domain of jlk@stratosec.co) Received: from [216.32.180.185] (HELO co1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com) (216.32.180.185) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:07:45 +0000 Received: from mail212-co1-R.bigfish.com (10.243.78.222) by CO1EHSOBE009.bigfish.com (10.243.66.72) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:07:25 +0000 Received: from mail212-co1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail212-co1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BA7740169; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:07:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:132.245.2.21;KIP:(null);UIP:(null);IPV:NLI;H:BN1PRD0512HT004.namprd05.prod.outlook.com;RD:none;EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: 1 X-BigFish: PS1(zz98dI9371Izz1de0h1d18h1202h1e76h1d1ah1d2ah1082kzz8275bhz2dh2a8h668h839h944hd25he5bhf0ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah139eh13b6h1441h1504h1537h162dh1631h1662h1758h1155h) Received: from mail212-co1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail212-co1 (MessageSwitch) id 135594404375316_21849; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CO1EHSMHS001.bigfish.com (unknown [10.243.78.216]) by mail212-co1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06290500071; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BN1PRD0512HT004.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (132.245.2.21) by CO1EHSMHS001.bigfish.com (10.243.66.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:07:19 +0000 Received: from [172.17.97.21] (199.16.140.29) by pod51010.outlook.com (10.255.193.37) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.245.2; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:07:18 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] CloudStack Marketplace Update From: John Kinsella In-Reply-To: <7A92FF96DF135843B4B608FB576BFC3E012DA2CF1BED@SJCPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 11:07:19 -0800 CC: "cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <4F8072AF-F588-492D-BA38-093460F660AF@gmail.com> <7A92FF96DF135843B4B608FB576BFC3E012DA27F449A@SJCPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> <7A92FF96DF135843B4B608FB576BFC3E012DA27F44DC@SJCPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> <0889AA2F-F5DF-4633-88DB-9FD4A8ACB961@stratosec.co> <7A92FF96DF135843B4B608FB576BFC3E012DA27F44E3@SJCPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> <6DE00C9FDF08A34683DF71786C70EBF02F50E5CB@SBPOMB402.sbp.lan> <20121213215636.GC18515@localhost.localdomain> <15D29345-CF54-4A22-8C8A-F07F90FAF901@gmail.com> <7A92FF96DF135843B4B608FB576BFC3E012DA2CF1BED@SJCPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Originating-IP: [199.16.140.29] X-OriginatorOrg: stratosec.co X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Dec 19, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Jie Feng wrote: > 4. Disable Marketplace by default or not including any listing = repository by default. > The community in general seems to be concerned about including a third = party listing repository by default. My question is if third parties do = run a listing repository, how do we make CloudStack admins and users = aware of this? And in general, how do we help folks who build = value-added offerings on top of CloudStack to reach the admins and users = of the CloudStack community? In my opinion, for an open source project = to be successful, an ecosystem is very important. My original goal is to = design the Marketplace in such a way that the listings are very easily = accessible by admins and users, and have place for the ecosystem to = participate (think iPhone and iPhone apps).=20 This is an interesting concern - my response would be to ask "How do = vendors in the Eclipse community get potential customers to know about = their 3rd party repositories?" It seems to happen just fine. =46rom a = business perspective, you don't advertise your repo, you advertise your = awesome functionality that people will want, then when they ask how to = get it, the repo is mentioned. So the goal of this ACS marketplace integration should be to make it as = easy as possible for a CloudStack user to either add a repo into their = ACS install, or to visit a marketplace and then get the resulting = acquisition (funds may be transferred or no) into their ACS install. If = it's easy (within Apache limits), it'll get used.