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From "Kelceydamage@bbits" <>
Subject Re: CentOS System Offering Thread
Date Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:53:10 GMT
After the arp issues I had with the current system vm(VR) when behind an RHEL FW using arp
for IP clustering, having the option of a centos VR would be great.

Mixed Linux distro environments can sometimes have unforeseen consequences. And if a shop
is totally RHEL, then forcing them to use non RHEL distros for infra components makes little

If we can get these alternate system VMs working, then I think it's a good move.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 12, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Joe Brockmeier <> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012, at 11:32 PM, Marcus Sorensen wrote:
>> This is pretty important.  Anyone should be able to roll their own,
>> rather
>> than relying on a single potentially out-of-date image. It seems like it
>> would be pretty simple and straightforward on the face of it, however
>> many
>> of the scripts have been written specifically for Debian. I'd honestly be
>> ok with having to stick to a particular distro if I at least had clear
>> instructions on how to make my own, I understand the need to program
>> against a single defined userspace.
> I see a potential problem with this. 
> Any scenario where users are customizing part of the stack means
> additional variables which means additional problems. If we target
> Debian, trying to create a system VM from CentOS/RHEL means different
> libraries, etc. - which means a number of potential problems cropping up
> where there were none before.
> I'm not saying users *shouldn't* be able to do this - just that I
> haven't noticed anyone raising the issue that we'll probably start
> seeing a fair number more bugs if replacing the system VM becomes a
> standard practice. There's a reason, for instance, that Linux vendors
> don't support custom kernels - and what's being proposed here is
> swapping out an entire OS. 
> It's going to make things a bit more tricky when someone reports a bug
> and they're using a roll-your-own system VM and the people doing the
> testing are using a different one. 
> Again - not saying we shouldn't do this, but I'd like to see that given
> a bit more consideration when we're discussing the issue. 
> Best,
> jzb
> -- 
> Joe Brockmeier
> Twitter: @jzb

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