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From Rohit Yadav <>
Subject Re: API Updates: Tracking progress, changes
Date Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:28:03 GMT
Hi Sebastien,

On 28-Dec-2012, at 2:15 AM, sebgoa <> wrote:

> Hi Rohit,
> I have been following the thread but I have a silly question, maybe you can help clear
my confusion :)
> Does your work impact the client side API ?

Yes and no. Because the way queries were processed is slightly difference inside API server,
but as far as over the wire aka client requests are concerned there is no change in that.
There is only enforcement on apis that were introduced since 3.x (all of them have an annotation
@Implementation which is now @APICommand which has a "since=" field which holds the version
no. they were introduced) to accept only uuids as params wherever applicable.

> Meaning if I am using jclouds, boto, python-cloudstack clients. Will my client
codes break with this API changes ? 

With the recent vote and fixes after that, the client code *should not break*. If it does
it's a bug.
Behaviour and functionality wise the clients and users should not feel any difference.

There will be few changes in the response, which Min would be in a better position to explain.

PS. No questions are silly :)

> -Sebastien
> On Dec 28, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Rohit Yadav wrote:
>> Some recent updates:
>> - Make over the wire apis params validation/translation as before thereby making
changes status quo with master, only enforce uuid param validation for apis introduce since
>> - Annotate name field in @APICommand for all cmd classes, now we can get rid of apiname,
cmd class pkg name mappings from * file
>> - Fixed apidocs, build
>> Regards.
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Rohit Yadav
>> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 1:18 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: API Updates: Tracking progress, changes
>> On 27-Dec-2012, at 7:32 AM, David Nalley <> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Rohit Yadav <>
>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>> We got rid of IdentityMapper and enforced the translation of over the wire
UUID string to internal long int ID, so we know if internal IDs are used in any case starting
4.1 it will break any client, script that are based off internal ID and not UUID strings.
Few folks on the ML have expressed concerns, but we need this change and to enforce that we
won't have any backward compatibility for over the wire api params to accept internal IDs.
>>> I read this, and am left more confused than before.
>>> There have been assurances regarding the refactor that no API changes
>>> have occurred, but the above seems to contradict that.
>>> I'll apologize for being daft (and for not going in and looking at the
>>> changes) but can you tell me:
>>> 1. what the changes to the API are?
>> Changes to the API: None, for any over the wire request no params have been added
or removed, nor any api cmd/response was added or removed.
>> Enforcement on the APIs: All id params should be UUID strings. This should have been
done since 3.x, but the changes listed below enforce that.
>> Changes in API Server, OTW param processing etc:
>> 0. Moving classes to org.apache.cloudstack.* package name, this does not change anything
just imports in depending classes.
>> 1. In all cmd classes: Annotate @Parameter to have correct type, entityType, collectionType,
remove @IdentityMapper annotation. This changes interfaces, processing of those annotations
and fix any caller. Therefore this change is refactoring [1]. Any @Parameter annotation with
CommandType UUID is considered a case where OTW param string needs to be translated to an
InternalId. In CloudStack we use internal db ids and not uuids, implemented a getUuid() in
>> 2. List apis and response view optimizations by Min, optimizations in this case are
considered refactoring as well [1] [2].
>> 3. Deduplication of code by moving them into methods, this does not change any functionality
either, just refactoring.
>> 4. ACL adapter and adapter interface definitions, work by Prachi. Separate out ACL
and DB/Range validation code, define interfaces for the adapter, move implementations as plugin.
Again, refactoring.
>> 5. Rename @Implementation annotation to @APICommand, introduce a new name field.
This name field can tightly couple API name to the cmd class, right now this info is insecurely
coupled in file where the mapping of apiname=<pkg name>.cmdclass:mask
is defined. In future we would only have apiname and role masks which will constitute all
whitelisted apis i.e. if api is not declared in file, it's blacklisted.
This would also enforce uniqueness of api command name.
>>> 2. Why 'we need this change'?
>> Why:
>> 0. Refactoring was needed, as explained above.
>> 1. There was a ticket on JIRA (cannot recall the id) to move classes under org.apache.cloudstack
pkg name.
>> 2. Move out policy from CloudStack as plugin so orgs can impl. their own role based
and ACL etc.
>> 3. Remove bloat, optimize OTW commands, esp. the responses.
>> 4. Make it easier for contributor to write plugin, apis.
>> 5. Remove code by refactoring acl, db validation code in one place using annotations
which is spread across api layer (cloud-api, parts of cloud-server) and service layer (all
the managers and managerimpls).
>>> Breaking backward compatibility is a huge deal IMO. Even changes that
>>> technically didn't break compatibility but were different than folks
>>> expectations (when we introduced UUID) earned us much wailing and
>>> gnashing of teeth. Breaking other people's external tools that
>>> interact with CloudStack is something that shouldn't be done without
>>> much deliberation.
>> :( I've to be the bad guy here, but we need to enforce that params are queried by
>> Okay I'll ask community for a vote on it, if we want to keep things ambiguous and
expose internal db ids to outside world the fix would be a simple if-else block to allow both
kinds of ids.
>> Regards.
>> [1]
>> [2]

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