Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B614DD535 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:53:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7859 invoked by uid 500); 12 Nov 2012 08:53:01 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 7808 invoked by uid 500); 12 Nov 2012 08:53:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cloudstack-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 7767 invoked by uid 99); 12 Nov 2012 08:52:58 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:52:58 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of runseb@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.215.175] (HELO mail-ea0-f175.google.com) (209.85.215.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:52:52 +0000 Received: by mail-ea0-f175.google.com with SMTP id l10so327253eaa.6 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:52:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=qBxo0h6u4L+LMJhr4mHN+5j7pbnYvdoeUkFCHWQ+SPE=; b=sj3Isdp0hPvtmzyawPR0PS6vIjJxtwDcFnWQ29Zfgze+eK7ENKkr1qUaM6RlWXUN5x alK3EvWs41kqYKg4ZAcjhjDLAfAYRDCJbkvpKP0YPXxVWqgslv/PZj71nsSJpadZWRzT m4vEMTSA8HFT754RTVm9oqF+rTcSu6fhuSySTGzcpVHw36xn4c9jEBe/O2kR/FOmm2+J NIAjoo3E8QVQxWXx888tVT6AqlXi6cfhMkzeYq4ijeSKNmwpdoNBmpLbou2LvS10Z6YO juTxQ0yAm+uQ9SeWe/S/aNfq3fRhgLFB5DQXV9+iF1Da6DwpBaVqOKz2G2dfVSTTTYh/ g88w== Received: by 10.14.173.195 with SMTP id v43mr60070307eel.39.1352710351161; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:52:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.0.4] (156-239.193-178.cust.bluewin.ch. [178.193.239.156]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d44sm14841272eeo.10.2012.11.12.00.52.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:52:30 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: [RFC] Refactoring CloudStack From: Sebastien Goasguen In-Reply-To: <50A0B437.80809@widodh.nl> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 09:52:37 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <85D1D9E4-32C0-4EB0-B8BA-05D909A4C4B6@gmail.com> References: <50A0B437.80809@widodh.nl> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Alex, I looked at the powerpoint.=20 Could you elaborate a bit on the new deployment plans (slides 19-21). It = seems that you are aiming for more independent zones and a more reliable = management layer, but I could not quite picture how you would actually = deploy this. On the componentization: I think it's great, but will this result in = separate applications (like we AWSAPI now) ? and will these components = still be tightly integrated from a packaging installation point of view = ? My concern being that we should still aim for a "one-click" install of = CloudStack versus several recipe to integrate many different components. Last thing, which is really a software implementation choice, I was = talking to the Java User Group in Geneva and mentioned that the = community was looking at moving to the Spring framework, some folks were = a little surprised, suggesting that there was better frameworks that = could be used. thanks, -Sebastien On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote: > Hi Alex, >=20 > Just wanted to let you know that I'm going to take a good look at = this. >=20 > Wido >=20 > On 11/09/2012 07:12 PM, Alex Huang wrote: >> I sent out an email a couple of months ago about the need to refactor = CloudStack into small pieces. At the time, the overall sentiment was = the community is heavily invested in releasing 4.0 and this should be = brought up post 4.0. Now that 4.0 has been released, I like to bring = this up again. I created a powerpoint to illustrate that need. Please = take a look at [1] >>=20 >> This work is related to Edison's Storage subsystem, Kelven's Spring, = Murali's notification system proposals. The work is to be done in the = javelin branch. >>=20 >> Please comment. >>=20 >> --Alex >>=20 >> [1] = https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+Refactor= ing >>=20