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From Alex Karasulu <akaras...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Student Community ?
Date Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:14:16 GMT
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:08 PM, David Nalley <david@gnsa.us> wrote:

> > Before going too deep into incentive programs, though, I'd encourage
> > checking out Stormy Peters' talk: "Would you do it again for free?"
> >
> > http://stormyscorner.com/would-you-do-it-again-for-free
> >
> > tl;dr - incentive programs don't always wind up generating long-term
> > involvement.
>
>
> This is my concern with GSoC - while it has produced some rockstars
> (and we even have someone who was involved in GSoC working on
> CloudStack, my experience is that unless the folks were previously
> involved with a project before GSoC they are gone after the fact,
> which is a huge loss for the investment needed.
>
> In general mentoring new folks is a huge timesink:
>
>
For the same reasons some sited above and below I feel the same. I've seen
0% retention for GSoC students on the 4-5 projects I've seen take part in
GSoC. This is unfortunate indeed.


> If you look at the statistics pointed out by Dave Neary:
> in the first half of this blog post:
> http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/05/31/effective-mentoring-programs/
> You'll note that generally speaking they assume only 25% of mentored
> individuals will stay around, and that for the project mentoring
> students appears to be a net loss.
>
> My personal experience with students in Fedora has been less than
> encouraging, to the point I stopped my efforts in that area
> altogether. My experience was that the people who were interested
> would come looking on their own, would be easy to help, and would stay
> around much longer; going out recruiting, particularly among student
> populations (people who by definition are going through lots of change
> in a very rapid time period, have shifting priorities, etc) rarely
> yields any long term (more than a semester) contributors.
>
> Not trying to discourage you (or even say you shouldn't do it) just a
> heads up on some of the experiences of others.
>

Ditto.

-- 
Best Regards,
-- Alex

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