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From: Ewan Mellor <Ewan.Mellor@eu.citrix.com>
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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 22:44:54 +0100
Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Binaries (jars) in our source tree/source releases.
Thread-Topic: [DISCUSS] Binaries (jars) in our source tree/source releases.
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Looking at Darren's emails, and your earlier +1.01 for Maven, I was going t=
o say that we should go with Maven just because of the additional experienc=
e that we have between us.  I know that Darren has done a lot with Maven in=
 the past, and he is willing to help.

If you want to continue with both Maven and Gradle for now, in the interest=
s of science, then that's OK by me too.  It's really up to you if you want =
to put the time into trying both.

We need to make a decision soon though.  Is it OK if I set a deadline of EO=
D tomorrow for your branches to be ready, and then we can have a vote in th=
e IRC meeting on Friday, 17:00 UTC?

Ewan.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hugo Trippaers [mailto:HTrippaers@schubergphilis.com]
> Sent: 14 August 2012 22:29
> To: <cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org>
> Cc: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Binaries (jars) in our source tree/source releases=
.
>=20
> Only releasing jar files is certainly not the idea. Next to that there is=
 other
> stuff that we need to do like building system vms and stuff.
>=20
> My idea was more to see if maven/gradle can be the leading build tool,
> driving other tools to do the other jobs.
>=20
> I would still like to see what you have done with maven so far. I'm also =
more
> familiar with maven, but gradle looks promising. Hence the double work. I
> would like to show both to the dev community so we can make an informed
> choice.
>=20
> Cheers,
>=20
> Hugo
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
> On 15 aug. 2012, at 02:23, "Alex Huang" <Alex.Huang@citrix.com> wrote:
>=20
> >>
> >> I have no clue what the technical release process is, like how you
> >> are really going to build Apache CS and produce a release
> >> distribution.  I have a good idea of how Citrix used to do it, but
> >> for Apache CS if all we want to do is release jars, we can stop at gra=
dle.
> >>
> > I don't think Apache CS will only release jar files.
> >
> > I once planned for CloudStack to be a bunch of components driven by a
> orchestration engine.  Components.xml was written originally intending fo=
r
> administrators to specify at deployment time the components that can be
> deployed and used by the orchestration engine.  CS is no longer like that=
 and
> it will take a while to get it back to that type of state.  The appeal of=
 CS today
> is that it is a product and we should release it as such for now.
> >
> > --Alex