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From Edison Su <>
Subject RE: [RFC] DevCloud, an all-in-one-box CloudStack development environment
Date Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:36:08 GMT

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers []
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 2:06 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [RFC] DevCloud, an all-in-one-box CloudStack development
> environment
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:35 AM, Edison Su <> wrote:
> >
> > On Jul 9, 2012, at 8:32 PM, "Chip Childers"
> <> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Edison Su <>
> wrote:
> >>> The known stuffs left are:
> >>> 1. Need to automate CloudStack management server installation. We
> need a preinstalled CloudStack mgt server in DevCloud, for ordinary
> user. The main issue is that on master branch, DEB build is broken, and
> mgt server doesn't work on Ubuntu 12.04(such as tomcat6.conf is changed,
> some jar files are changed, not include in the class path etc). I
> manually hacked the DEB build and then changed a lot of files to get it
> work.
> >>
> >> That one sounds messy...  Is there a reason that you started with
> >> 12.04 as the OS?  Does Fedora perhaps work better for now?
> >
> > Only Ubuntu 12.04 supports Xen + xcp. Why choose Xen, not QEMU, or
> KVM?
> > 1. CloudStack has the best support for Xen for the known reason...
> > 2. DevCloud running in a VM, so KVM doesn't work as VirtualBox
> doesn't support nested CPU virtualization.
> > 3. PV Xen vm will be faster than the QEMU, and lesser CPU overhead.
> >
> > If running DevCloud inside a VM, Ubuntu 12.04 is an ideal choice for
> now.
> >  CloudStack supports Ubuntu 10.04, as 12.04 is already out for a
> while, it's time to add the support for 12.04 now.
> I'm working on the simple Vagrant configuration now, based on your
> image.  However, the details above should probably be sorted out.
> Ideally, the base Vagrant box would be created from the point where
> you had completed the base OS install plus the Xen + xcp installs.
> Vagrant is most useful if it takes care of the initial installation of
> the software you are going to be working with.
> Do you happen to have:
> 1) steps to reach the Ubuntu + Xen + Xcp?

The base image is easy to be created:
1. Ubuntu 12.04 server, fresh installation, few things need to take into consideration:
    1) Devcloud vm disk size, is about 20G
    2) During installation, disk partition should be look like this:
       Root partition: need a separate /opt partition on LVM, which is used as primary storage
and secondary storage. Created on LVM, so the partition can be extended easily if needed.
    3) The default installed packages: select SSH server.
    The Vagrant can not act as
? If it can automate Ubuntu OS installation itself, that will be great...

2. After Server installed, execute: " -p", will install xen+xcp, then reboot.

> 2) steps you took to hack together the CloudStack build / install?
> For point 2, are you perhaps already looking at fixing the master
> branch build within Ubuntu 12.04?  If not, but you know the steps you
> generally took, I can start to look at this after the initial Vagrant
> work.

Not yet. I think it's better let me do it, as it takes me a while to figure it out, what's
wrong with the build. Don't waste your time on it.
I'll work on it tomorrow.

> >>> 4. Need to document or automate the VirtualBox image or ova
> creating process, such as what's the hardware configuration for the VM,
> what's the Port Forwarding rules we are using, etc.
> >>
> >> This is where Vagrant can help out, since one of it's main goals in
> >> life is to help configure the VirtualBox environment for a VM (or
> set
> >> of VMs).  This includes all sorts of useful knobs.  If you want to
> do
> >> the documentation, I wouldn't mind taking a shot at the vagrant
> >> configuration.
> > That will be great! If there anything I can help, feel free to email
> me.
> I'm working on the obvious bits now (again, based on a "base image"
> that is your already created / tweaked image).  I'll send in a patch
> with a first pass vagrant config file when I'm done.
> Also, who would I talk to about being able to push this new vagrant
> image up into once I have something working?

David, is there a storage place can be shared by the community? 

> -chip

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