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From David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>
Subject Re: Can we use other language here?
Date Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:45:05 GMT
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Sheng Yang <sheng@yasker.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:29 AM, David Nalley <david@gnsa.us> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Wido den Hollander <wido@widodh.nl> wrote:
>>> On 06/19/2012 02:50 PM, Robert Schweikert wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 06/19/2012 05:43 AM, Lu Heng wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> One very interesting question raised by my Chinese tech today, can we
>>>>> use Chinese in the mailling list.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Seems there is no language restriction about in the mailling list,
>>>>> and all language should be equal.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. As I read and touched these days in the mailling list, a lot guy
>>>>> from crixi developing CS are in fact Chinese.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If this is needed then we should have a language specific list. However,
>>>> from a development point of view that'll put a big dent into
>>>> collaboration.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd see a cloudstack-users-cn mailinglist earlier then a Chinese developer
>>> list.
>>>
>>> My €0,02 says we should stick to English on the development list to keep
>>> collaboration consistent. English isn't my native language either, but it
>>> seems to be accepted as the language in software development?
>>>
>>> As far as I know English is harder to learn for Chinese people due to the
>>> huge language differences. I wouldn't vote against a Chinese development
>>> list, but I wouldn't endorse it either, due to the above reasons.
>>>
>>> Wido
>>>
>>>>
>>>> My $0.02
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> Generally a project uses a single language for development purposes
>> and while there is no technical barrier, splitting up the developer
>> community by language seems more deleterious than beneficial.
>>
>> This is further complicated by the fact that decisions have to be made
>> on the mailing list - which then begs the question - where can binding
>> decisions be made? In Apache projects that is supposed to happen on
>> the -dev list. However with two -dev lists that becomes a bit more
>> difficult.
>>
>>  So my personal take on the matter:
>> We have a number of developers for whom English is not their native
>> tongue - but it remains a common tongue for us. I'd certainly have no
>> objection to language-specific user mailing lists. But missing entire
>> development conversations, strikes me as a bad thing.
>>
>> Thoughts, comments, flames?
>
> Agree. There should be no knowledge barrier between developers.
>
> And I am quite believe in English education in China. Again, don't
> worry about grammar or misspell etc.
>
> And localized user mailing is necessary I think.
>
> --Sheng
>>
>> --David

Sheng, or Edison - feel free to create a ticket for INFRA at
issues.apache.org to create a Chinese language user mailing list.

--David

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