Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-clerezza-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-clerezza-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C30EADB13 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3857 invoked by uid 500); 22 Nov 2012 22:25:15 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-clerezza-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 3819 invoked by uid 500); 22 Nov 2012 22:25:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact clerezza-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 3811 invoked by uid 99); 22 Nov 2012 22:25:15 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:25:15 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of ansell.peter@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.43 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.43] (HELO mail-wg0-f43.google.com) (74.125.82.43) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:25:09 +0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id dq12so3237002wgb.0 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:24:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=P0eKkEj9RMw1PF/S7pIb1hxsnZrNGq1Rt63DoKVD1p4=; b=Tp5kF6dT5fIEDCJT0rsEX2pWdi/BR0I6Hc1Ak0LrBP2YYGG33dj7sjZVR1oAY3j9Md PnW1nGxkNz00YYG+QDgtYNF00r8z4QXJg5KTg8uC9BX1bzDOk4IAU85iMVN0qENTa6zT 7QyF0NYe+E1opHoAUHUvzYCOHvwl61Y7ilXXLOYpiMzZU5GlAv7aRksVkMD740ChzuGc DpSdxLGkoX9C2xE3abnBuMV/MY/W0d2pgUNKxp+Uktqu89Y2bXnzV5JMDIreWzCSVecL oMJJTaVOb8IOAo6wrE27/K5UmOfomvuJzjVsxxSOhMLhCJwq0429JxohEWtd4z1Leysd xDag== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.93.3 with SMTP id cq3mr7154944wib.1.1353623087960; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.31.7 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:24:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 08:24:47 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Graduating Clerezza - please indicate what your involvement would be From: Peter Ansell To: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 22 November 2012 22:32, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > Trying to summarize the recent discussions, my understanding is that > Clerezza consists of three different parts: > > a) An RDF API with adapters and tools, used by Stanbol Stanbol seems to be the major application using these components. Personally, the OpenRDF API, currently only implemented by Sesame, suits my needs. I do not see a niche for the Clerezza RDF API compared against the incumbent Java RDF/OWL libraries, namely Sesame, OWLAPI, or Jena. I do not wish to rehash the discussions about advantages and disadvantages of each, but it is clear that people are making applications that work using those three libraries, even if they each have their own unique defects. My interest in extending Clerezza was to investigate changes necessary to use it while experimenting with the Stanbol Ontology Manager component to determine the steps that would be needed to use that module from Stanbol as a POJO without OSGi. Unfortunately I was not able to get the Stanbol Ontology Manager working outside of the OSGi framework so I went with a custom solution after implementing a Sesame-to-OWLAPI bridge. Cheers, Peter