Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-clerezza-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-clerezza-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 615A69C97 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 53396 invoked by uid 500); 20 Jun 2012 12:31:44 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-clerezza-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 53291 invoked by uid 500); 20 Jun 2012 12:31:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact clerezza-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 53274 invoked by uid 99); 20 Jun 2012 12:31:42 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:31:42 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [216.86.168.183] (HELO mxout-08.mxes.net) (216.86.168.183) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:31:33 +0000 Received: from mail-qa0-f49.google.com (unknown [209.85.216.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7EF5150A6B for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by qabj40 with SMTP id j40so358960qab.1 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 05:30:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=7rnlU0/oTcjnHSUzsm1t0cklgrQNPOrdwd/32LQnnw8=; b=oRoqKcGQjGjv/c+DmLzq1g7m8hQVsUfVE8sk2DCj85Rfk4cF4OmqFZn0SnvSAPPD83 g/PPJZO7rtfbbstGYqaVrmlA8RzemJ/FkNPlDR58y0oZ9VhZM1MZ1l/VyVs/50T0k2Sq RDwi/+UHbdIDE5ctaIyP0CQSCjjSmCQWLoB7G7sPysh69taqnHchBprzXcBNKLiCTFTM sGGmeCwHmdqZdWUs8i1UsWglX44nja7RUnE1X+J1q4QIgA83AL940lEa9ei0C7yyM+tH n30v3w1i5Wh+kJWZyLTzxmXLas+w1BYcO9ZFPZGIjqI+CP56R/PKhfUnIGYjlevNkA/C jzwg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.114.226 with SMTP id f34mr11754791qcq.36.1340195442912; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 05:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.124.80 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 05:30:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [91.137.97.21] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:30:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Semantic Web track at ApacheCon (Fwd: Tracks for ApacheCon Europe - Project Proposals needed) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Reto_Bachmann=2DGm=FCr?= To: dev@jena.apache.org Cc: stanbol-dev@incubator.apache.org, clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org, jena-dev@incubator.apache.org, any23-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkWneW7c4MOsdZqoMa3+LF7b8+TpipeX+X5XvQ0BPE17L8sVwmEXx074FkrNtGPyzxiEy4o X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Reto Bachmann-Gm=FCr = wrote: > > What about a semantic web track at ApacheCon? > > I like the idea, and would like it even better if it was called > "linked data", "web of data" of anything that does not include the > word "semantic". Not sure where the often encountered aversion against that term comes from. Is it a campaign of the big information portals who are afraid to loose power if information classification and selection becomes more decentralized? Or is it the frustration of the first wave of developers who decided the name must be the reason for the lack of success of their software? Or did the semantic web just attract too many AI people to remain attractive for the rest of us? Replacing the terms "semantics" with some kind of "data" just seems an inaccurate description of what this is about. Granted, "linked data" can be seen as something a bit more generic than "linked documents" thus including deeper linking and non documented oriented data-structures. However I don't see why classical "linked documents" shouldn't fall in that category as well. What the 4 projects have in common is the use of technologies (notably RDF) that allow linking entities other than data, for example persons or abstract ideas. So I think this is about linking *beyond data*, and with entity extraction (stanbol, any23) and inference (jena) it's also *beyond linking*. I'm open for other proposals but to me the term semantics seems to describe the scope quite well. Cheers, Reto