Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-clerezza-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-clerezza-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46CE24C81 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 60636 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jun 2011 18:42:06 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-clerezza-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 60600 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jun 2011 18:42:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact clerezza-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 60592 invoked by uid 99); 8 Jun 2011 18:42:06 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 08 Jun 2011 18:42:06 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.214.175] (HELO mail-iw0-f175.google.com) (209.85.214.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 08 Jun 2011 18:41:59 +0000 Received: by iwn10 with SMTP id 10so735751iwn.6 for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:41:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.145.66 with SMTP id e2mr11536100icv.262.1307558498328; Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Sender: reto@trialox.org Received: by 10.42.178.4 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:41:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [217.71.247.242] In-Reply-To: References: <111D1FA5-449E-44A1-8751-F433C5AD530C@bblfish.net> <16ED0442-166E-455E-A66B-C26FE7388BDC@bblfish.net> <1FA1CDAA-14CB-4E6E-81C1-BEBECA0E5B1F@bblfish.net> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 20:41:38 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: lGdWUK1Z4fBuHNvzIn05Cee-kMA Message-ID: Subject: Re: 540 in perspective -- Re: [VOTE] Accept the proposed patch of CLEREZZA-540 From: Reto Bachmann-Gmuer To: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba21220fd0e15b04a537af08 --90e6ba21220fd0e15b04a537af08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Henry Story wrote: > > On 8 Jun 2011, at 13:02, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer wrote: > > > Dear Henry, > > > > The current situation is really annoying and part of the blame goes on me > as I'm part of the Clerezza community that failed to introduce you to the > project and the community in a way that empowers you to identify issues > suitable for an iterative development that leads to the envisaged viral > social web platform and to provide resolutions for these issues capable of > consensus. > > > > The current is the worst crises of our community and the biggest > impediment to productive work we have had till now. So I urge to collaborate > with the following approach to get back to productive work (i.e. getting > issues closed rather than arguing): > > > > - you withdraw your -1 against a patch that doesn't change the behaviour > of any existing method and which has had 5 +1 > > > > - I will give hand to find ways to identify useful issues and solutions > for the desired functionality. You specify the issue you'd like to address > and I'll help you split this up into actually resolvable (and reviewable) > issues and describe approaches on how this be resolved. Then you'll be able > to contribute to a monotonic growth of closed (tiny) issues and thus to a > constant improvement of clerezza. > > > > Please Henry, help leaving the current mess behind and get back to a > collaboration that yields to product improvements. > > Ok, sounds good. +1 > Great, thanks! I close the issue and I'll be looking at your code on CLEREZZA-416 to make proposals on bits that can be closed and trying to contribute patches. Sorry for the discussion getting over heated a bit. I'd like to add my apologies for an unfriendly tone in some of my mails. Enjoy Berlin! Reto > --90e6ba21220fd0e15b04a537af08--