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From Nick Bailey <n...@datastax.com>
Subject Re: opscentrer is spying
Date Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:14:56 GMT
It is 'bdp_version' even though it is a list. That is a bit confusing.

Thanks, I've added that additional feedback to our tracker.

-Nick


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Dave Finnegan <dave@datastax.com> wrote:

> Nick,
>
> Just a nit, but is it 'bdp_version' or 'dbp_versions'?
>
>
>    - 'bdp_version': A list of the different DataStax Enterprise versions
>    in the cluster.
>
> Also, is this "report" available from OpsCenter?  Seems like it would be
> nice to display a message to the user about what we send, and then provide
> a link to see the actual values that we are sending.  Just a thought.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Nick Bailey <nick@datastax.com> wrote:
>
>> As promised, updated docs detailing the data collected by OpsCenter are
>> now live.
>>
>>
>> http://www.datastax.com/docs/opscenter/configure/configure_opscenter_adv#stat-reporter-interval
>>
>> -Nick
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Alain RODRIGUEZ <arodrime@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Good, fast and appreciated reaction from Datastax.
>>>
>>> Also thanks to Radim for the warning.
>>>
>>> Alain, Opscenter-free user.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/6/20 Nick Bailey <nick@datastax.com>
>>>
>>>> Thanks everyone. We always appreciate constructive criticism.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding what OpsCenter collects, we completely agree it should be
>>>> documented more clearly. You can expect to see an update to the
>>>> documentation later today. I will update this thread once that goes live.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding notifying the user when installing, we agree this process
>>>> should be more transparent to the user. Adding that information as well as
>>>> making it easier to disable will be a high priority for the OpsCenter team.
>>>> Obviously that will take more time than documentation, but hopefully that
>>>> feature will be out soon as well.
>>>>
>>>> -Nick
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Peter Lin <woolfel@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I use Cassandra, but I don't use OpsCenter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems like it would be in everyone's best interest to clearly define
>>>>> what data OpsCenter collects today, what OpsCenter won't collect and
a
>>>>> promise to users none of the data will be used without first getting
a
>>>>> customer's approval.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can understand the desire to collect general statistics, since it
>>>>> helps developers get a sense of how cassandra is used in production.
I'm
>>>>> guessing these types of security issues can be easily addressed by
>>>>> improving EULA, documentation and communication.
>>>>>
>>>>> my bias 2 cents as a user.
>>>>>
>>>>> peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Radim Kolar <hsn@filez.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  OpsCenter collects anonymous usage data and reports it back to
>>>>>>> DataStax. For example, number of nodes, keyspaces, column families,
etc.
>>>>>>> Stat reporting isn't required to run OpsCenter however. To turn
this
>>>>>>> feature off, see the docs here (stat_reporter):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You never informed user that installing your crap will get him spyed
>>>>>> upon. Thats very different from Firefox which asks for permission
before
>>>>>> sending data back and presents both choices to user.
>>>>>>  1. You do not have documented what information and how often you
are
>>>>>> going to spy
>>>>>>  2. how you are processing this information, which is required by
EU
>>>>>> law.
>>>>>>  3. In your crap EULA you demand right to present any user of your
>>>>>> spyware to public for PR purposes.
>>>>>>  4. You guys tried to add spyware into apache cassandra and got huge
>>>>>> negative response on cassandra-dev. You will simply never learn lesson.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I dont trust Datastax:
>>>>>> 1 .I am responsible for data security because we have sensitive data
>>>>>> in database. Because you are spying by default, we can not trust
that due
>>>>>> to our admin mistake your spyware will not be left enabled.
>>>>>> 2. We can not trust you that configuring that particual option really
>>>>>> turns spying off. There might be bug in code or option can change
name
>>>>>> 3. We do not like to be spyed by software holding sensitive data
>>>>>> 4. Spying is not anonymous - you will get IP address of reporter
-
>>>>>> you will see what company is using your product and from keyspace/CF
names
>>>>>> you can easily guess for what it is beeing used. If you do not spy
>>>>>> keyspace/CF names yet you can do it in future since you have no clear
>>>>>> privacy "what we spy" policy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I improved cassandra nagios plugin to fit our needs and give red
stop
>>>>>> sign to sw made by datastax.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dave Finnegan
> Sales Engineer
> DataStax
> dave@datastax.com
> 845.418.6121
>
>

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